Airbus A350 to be Cancelled
Rumours are circulating that this project may be dumped due to
lack of interest in this aircraft.
anybody heard anything from France?
A350 Cancellation
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SicilianFalcon
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Nothing sighted about such news here...
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No! thats why it says rumours!SicilianFalcon wrote:Hmm I cant but question where these rumours are from and if there is any real evidence. Rumours like assumptions mean ZERO.
Any hard info?
8) Forza
but working in the airline industry you hear things like this, some are true, and some are not. Thats why I asked if anyone else had heard anything
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Am sure that this is nothing more than a rumor. Lack of intrest oh give us a break. How long has this aircraft been offerd to airlines? Eleven days after its launch it got its first commitment from Air Europa not bad for an aircraft of such little intrest. Many current operators of the A330/A340, will find this new member as a perfect fit into their fleet.
350 Cancellation
If the 350 is cancelled at some stage, it will be because Airbus decides it can dent the 787 market with the 330. Based on recent 330 sales when the 787 has been offered eg Northwest, the 330 can still sell, so cancelling the 350 may not be as unbelievable as it initially sounds.
Two other possibilities spring to mind, if this were true;
Firstly Airbus may have decided that it really does need the 300/310 replacement soonere rather than the 350, and secondly they can see that if they do not match boeing in this technological area, they will find themselves at a disadvantage for many years to come, as Boeing builds the 787 trchnology into other craft.
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Ruscoe
Two other possibilities spring to mind, if this were true;
Firstly Airbus may have decided that it really does need the 300/310 replacement soonere rather than the 350, and secondly they can see that if they do not match boeing in this technological area, they will find themselves at a disadvantage for many years to come, as Boeing builds the 787 trchnology into other craft.
Thanks,
Ruscoe
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Jense
The only reason that I can see that Northwest is ordering the A330 is that they need a replacement for their VERY old DC-10 fleet now, not in the coming years. The A330 is the only viable option that they have, seeing is how the 767 is an old design as well. The A330 needs a replacement, and in my opinion, Airbus would be making a huge blunder to cancel the A350 program.
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Knight 255 what you say about the 330 and NWA makes sense to me, but I think Airbus might be better off starting with a clean sheet of paper.
They are in danger of slipping behind Boeing in the technology stakes.
European Commercial tech is on a par with current American technology but the Americans are at least a generation ahead in military technology and some of this can be applied to Commercial operations. Boeing are using some of the military technology they learnt on the 787.
So what I was saying it may be in Airbus best interest to skip the 350, and go for a clean shett 300/310 replacement, to keep themselves in the game. Sell 330 cheap to put the breaks on the 787.
Ruscoe
They are in danger of slipping behind Boeing in the technology stakes.
European Commercial tech is on a par with current American technology but the Americans are at least a generation ahead in military technology and some of this can be applied to Commercial operations. Boeing are using some of the military technology they learnt on the 787.
So what I was saying it may be in Airbus best interest to skip the 350, and go for a clean shett 300/310 replacement, to keep themselves in the game. Sell 330 cheap to put the breaks on the 787.
Ruscoe
There is another possibility to the rumors. Can Airbus afford to build this aircraft? They have just spent a fortune on the A380. Its way over budget. If EU governments pump in money, there will be legal problems with the US government. Rember, Airbus does not have a money printing press. Developing an alternative to the 787 will cost major Euros!
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Buddy you want to fly over here and say that to my face?!?!!? I'm a 100% Boeing supporter (for reasons that we can discuss later). Just because you don't like the U.S. and our government (by the way, I'm not proud of it either) shouldn't let it cloud your mind of how good our products are!!!! I do agree about the A300/310 replacement, but I think the 787 is attacking not only a 767 replacement, but is also targeting the A300/310 market with the 787-300 model. That is why I am saying that Airbus should still go ahead with the A350. You need to compete with something. Oh and by the way, WE ARE NOT BULLYING THE WORLD!!!
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As to the loans being given by the US goverment and the EU goverments, I would say that in the long run Boeing has a favourable position as they get those famous tax breaks while Airbus has to repay back those loans, hence the reason why the US goverment at the last minute always backs away from the WTO.
I too would favour a new clean sheet of paper from Airbus to counter the B787. Lets not forget that it was the A330 in the first place that destroied the B767, this comes to prove that the A330 still has,and most certainly deserves another breath of life even if that means a make over. The A350 promises to battle front on not only with the B787 but also with the
B777-200. The B787 is to enter revenue service in 2008, while the A350 is to enter service in 2010, that makes a diference of two years. That might seem a very long time for a derivative of an existing aircraft, maybe Airbus has something up its sleave to counter attack the B787 when it hurts more. Remember the B777 as it to came later to the A340, and look at what it did as to performance.
The main reason that the A380 project is over budget is mainly due to the decline of the US dollar. Airbus at this present time is reporting some strong profits for 2004.Can Airbus afford to build this aircraft? They have just spent a fortune on the A380.
As to the loans being given by the US goverment and the EU goverments, I would say that in the long run Boeing has a favourable position as they get those famous tax breaks while Airbus has to repay back those loans, hence the reason why the US goverment at the last minute always backs away from the WTO.
I too would favour a new clean sheet of paper from Airbus to counter the B787. Lets not forget that it was the A330 in the first place that destroied the B767, this comes to prove that the A330 still has,and most certainly deserves another breath of life even if that means a make over. The A350 promises to battle front on not only with the B787 but also with the
B777-200. The B787 is to enter revenue service in 2008, while the A350 is to enter service in 2010, that makes a diference of two years. That might seem a very long time for a derivative of an existing aircraft, maybe Airbus has something up its sleave to counter attack the B787 when it hurts more. Remember the B777 as it to came later to the A340, and look at what it did as to performance.
Thanks BP for your reaction, BTW I had to remove some of the non-related non-aviation political stuff in this topic.BP wrote:It would be nice for all members to keep politics and religion away from the forum as it only leads to conflicts.The whole porpose of this forum is meant to discuss Aviation, please lets keep it that way. If you have nothing constructive to say, dont say it at all.