Where is this photo made?

Airbus319 · Post by **Airbus319** » 17 Jan 2005, 15:55

Hello,
I am a spotter from Germany and a new member here. I usually go to CGN and DUS, but I am interested in BRU also. I have some questions.
I found the following photo at a German website:
http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=291304
Can anyone tell me, from which place it is taken, and how I can get there by public transport (I would come by train via Leuven)?
With which direction of the wind the planes are coming along there, and how much planes?
Which objective do I need there?

Thanks for any answer!

Post by **Bottie** » 17 Jan 2005, 16:09

Made from "the wall".

When he planes land on 25R, take off from 25R and 20 you can make pictures like this:

25R Landing:

25R Landing:

Turning to 20 for take-off:

Turning to 25L for take-off:

Taxi on Whisky:

Copyright Robin Zartos

About the lens: a 300mm lens should be no problem on that spot.

About to get there, I always go there by car, maybe there a bus from Kortenberg of Zaventem trainstation to Steenokkerzeel-centre (that spot is in Steenokkerzeel)

RobinZartos · Post by **RobinZartos** » 17 Jan 2005, 17:15

With 300mm u can allready take wonderful closeups, especially from the previous line of the taxiway. 200mm is enough to make quite good photos. I think, about the transport, u should ask that to Jordi steeno, member "Brusselsairport", he lives in Leuven.

At the soundwall, as Bottie already mentioned, u can take picture of landing aircraft on runway 25R and runway 20, and taxiing aircraft to both that runways. Here is another picture taken at 100-150mm.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/OO-SFN.jpg

Good luck at Brussels !

Edit : Btw, i think bottie tryed to say all landings on 25R instead of 25L

Post by **Apuneger** » 17 Jan 2005, 18:17

Basically you should try to get to the town of Steenokkerzeel (take a bus from the railway station of Kortenberg or maybe even from the airport terminal). From the town of Steenokkerzeel, walk north towards the newly-built roundabout (direction Mechelen) and the cemetery. At the roundabout you can access (by foot or bike only) the newly-built road to Zaventem and Woluwe (built to take traffic away from the city centre of Steenokkerzeel), heading south. There you'll see some very interesting spots along taxiway W4.

Ivan

RobinZartos · Post by **RobinZartos** » 17 Jan 2005, 19:05

I think that some more pictures will give a better explanation of what can be seen there. Here are some pics i took through the previous months, when taxiway Wisky was open again after some works.

(U can make the size bigger to click on the miniature pictures)

American Airlines B767-300 Taxiing on taxiway Wisky to rw25R.
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=3

American Airlines B767-300 Taxiing on taxiway Wisky to rw25R. (300mm) -> Cockpit close-up
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=0

United Airlines B767-300 Takeoff rw25R.
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=2

Delta Air Lines B767-300 Taxiing on taxiway Wisky to rw25R.
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=1

Sn Brussels Airlines A330-300 Takeoff runway 25R.
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=4

Sn Brussels Airlines A330-300 Taxiing on taxiway Wisky to rw25R.
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=5

Fly Air A300B4 Taxiing on taxiway Wisky to rw25R. (Backview)
http://members.airliners.be/displayimag ... m=28&pos=2

Airbus319 · Post by **Airbus319** » 17 Jan 2005, 22:00

Nice pictures! Thanks!

How much traffic is there usually? I am interested especially in long distance planes from Asia and America like 767, 777, 747, 330, 340.

RobinZartos · Post by **RobinZartos** » 17 Jan 2005, 22:12

Well, the big planes regullary coming to Brussels are :

American Airlines 767-300
United Airlines 767-300
Delta Air Lines 767-300
Continental Airlines 767-400
Biman Bangladesh Airlines Dc-10
Sn Brussels Airlines A330-300
Hewa Bora Airways L1011
BelgiumExel B767-300 (Can change to HollandXL)

And now for the moment :
Euroatlantic Airways L1011

No A340's sadly...

Sometimes this airline can change aircraft :
Lufthansa can come with A300-600 instead of :
-A320/319/321/733/...
*Especially at 10:05 from Frankfurt
ElAl Israel Airlines can come with B767-200/300 istead of B752
Royal Air Maroc can come with B767-300 istead of B73G
Egyptair can come with A300-600 instead of A320

Between 10 o'clock and 12:30 this usually departs :
2x AA
1x UA
2x DL
1x CO
3x SN
1x ALX

Get a look at http://www.biac.be/departures/ for the actual departure hours.

The aircrafts that are the heaviest loaded will taxi via taxiway Wisky.
Or if there is less or no wind, more heavies will taxi via that taxiway.
Be sure the wind direction is SW to have rw25R in use.

For the cargos :

Asiana Cargo B74F
Korean Air Cargo B74F
Kalitta Air B74F
Singapore Airlines Cargo B74F
Cathay Pacific Cargo B74F
Eva Air Cargo M1F
Saudi Arabian Cargo M1F
World Air Cargo M1F
Ethiopian Air Cargo B757-200

For the cargos u can find a good timetable here :
http://users.pandora.be/T.F.P/Bestanden ... nter04.xls

With specials thanks to Thomas Steenhouwer ! (Vonsmalhausen)

These cargos can sometimes taxi via taxiway wisky when they are heavy loaded.

For the last specials, please visit the up-to-date database on luchtzak.

When there is anything else left, don't hestitate to ask me or anyone else here on the luchtzak forum.

(Sorry for my bad english

)

Post by **Bottie** » 17 Jan 2005, 22:16

Airbus319 wrote:Nice pictures! Thanks!

How much traffic is there usually? I am interested especially in long distance planes from Asia and America like 767, 777, 747, 330, 340.

What heavies do we have here:

PAX: AA B763, Delta B763, CO B764, Biman DC10, SN A330. So no B777 (except now and then a Egypt Air B772). Sometimes A300-A310 ... for this moment no PAX-services (but this will change

)

Cargo: Saudi MD11F (the B747 goes to OST), Cathay B747, Singapore B747, Kalitta B747

It's possible I forgot some, if so please, please complete the list

EDIT: check Robin's answer

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » 18 Jan 2005, 08:28

Ok, what you do is the following :

- Take a train to Brussels North, there change to a L (stoptrain) train to Leuven and get off in "Kortenberg"
OR
- Take a train to Leuven, there change to a L train to "Geraardsbergen" and get off in Kortenberg.

When you go down the stairs in the trainstation of Kortenberg go to the left. There you will see a busstop, you need the one on the opposite side of the road. Any bus should go to Steenokkerzeel.
After that just follow apuneger's directions...

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 18 Jan 2005, 09:59

fftopic: Got To See Some Nice Pictures

Post by **Bottie** » 18 Jan 2005, 10:09

Advisor wrote:fftopic: Got To See Some Nice Pictures

take a look here:

http://members.airliners.be
http://coppermine.airliners.be
http://coppermine.luchtzak.be

...

RobinZartos · Post by **RobinZartos** » 18 Jan 2005, 16:18

Got To See Some Nice Pictures

What do you mean?

Airbus319 · Post by **Airbus319** » 19 Jan 2005, 18:52

Thanks for all your help!

Surfing along the websites of "De Lijn" and the "Gemeente Steenokkerzeel" (map) I found out how to get there by public transport. I post it for anyone who will have the same question:

Train from Leuven or Brussel-Noord to Kortenberg, bus until stop "Steenokkerzeel Kerk", than a few meters by feet.
The bus needs nine minutes from Kortenberg to Steenokkerzeel, by feet its a little bit longer......!

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » 20 Jan 2005, 08:35

by feet it will take around 45 minutes, I tried it, and gave up

You will have to wait for the bus a while, if I have it correctly the bus stops at trainstation of Kortenberg around 39...
During your waiting time you could already go have a look at the approach of 25L, there is a busstop very close to the water tower... Keep an eye on your watch tho'...

Enjoy your time in Brussels

Airbus319 · Post by **Airbus319** » 07 Feb 2005, 17:59

Yesterday, on the way home from the coast, we made a stop at Steenokkerzeel to have a look at this place. Really nice! Unfortunately I had my spotting-camera leaved at home!

For anyone who is interested: There is a busstop about 100m from this place, named "Steenokkerzeel Nieuwstraat". From trainstation Kortenberg line 721, direction Vilvoorde, drives along there.
Its a really nice place and I will come back in summer, better by car than by train and bus - its easier!

Edit: I forgot a question. What`s about the working place there? Would the workers be angry if I go there weekdays?

Post by **Bottie** » 07 Feb 2005, 21:20

Airbus319 wrote: Unfortunately I had my spotting-camera leaved at home!

Shame on you

Next time better