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Brussels Airlines flight to Kigali diverts to Dubrovnik for sick passenger

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Does anyone know when the first A330 will get the new livery ?

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Boavida wrote: 01 Jan 2022, 23:47 Does anyone know when the first A330 will get the new livery ?
At the presentation of the new livery, it was mentioned that the first A330 would get it in May. But I expect it might be earlier.
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I would like to express my sympathy to the brussels airlines staff and wish all the best for 2022 ! Hope SN will do well...

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An SN ad causes causes controversy: https://www.lesoir.be/416700/article/20 ... ique-photo (FR)

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Shonix wrote: 07 Jan 2022, 15:52 An SN ad causes causes controversy: https://www.lesoir.be/416700/article/20 ... ique-photo (FR)
Goe bezig 🤮

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b.lufthansa wrote: 07 Jan 2022, 19:45
Shonix wrote: 07 Jan 2022, 15:52 An SN ad causes causes controversy: https://www.lesoir.be/416700/article/20 ... ique-photo (FR)
Goe bezig 🤮

https://www.hln.be/binnenland/volhouden ... ~a74ea831/
For the fourth time in a short period that SN is negative in the media. First the new logo with the disapproving protest action of the unions. Then the 24 hour strike. This week with the ghost flights and now with a failed advertising campaign. When will it stop?

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Ask LH and the managers and decision-makers that they appointed at SN.

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Indeed! A child playing in a swimming pool or, with a little imagination, in a turquoise Caribbean sea, is more reminiscent of a dream holiday than of flood victims.
We should not pay attention to those people who look for the negative everywhere. They are the gravediggers of the world! Long live life!

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I fully understand the distress of the people of Liège in those moments of rebuilding their lifes, but to accuse SN of not recognizing it's surreal. Courage to people of Liège and I hope SN will fill it's planes...it's a bad trial !

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I cannot really imagine a link between this controversial picture and the floods and their victims last year. I cannot find a link either with a great vacation. Have a good look at the child's face.
However, to say it in just a few words, I find the picture disgusting, improper, out of place and it makes me think of something terrible which I won't name here, because it is too sensitive.

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When it was said that SFJ was joining the fleet as a back-up, I thought SN would take the opportunity to add a long haul flight: JFK, that is not daily yet, or IAD that was discontinued from October last year.

Is their pax volume still too low for a few additional flights per week?

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Peter Gerber, Brussels Airlines
«So viel Freiheit wie bei Lufthansa Cargo habe ich nicht»
Peter Gerber ist seit zehn Monaten Chef von Brussels Airlines. Im Interview erzählt er, wie er vom Personal empfangen wurde, was das Rebranding kostete, dass die Flotte bald größer als geplant sein wird - und warum Streiks in Belgien angenehmer sind als in Deutschland.


https://www.aerotelegraph.com/interview ... -ich-nicht

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Boeing767copilot wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 15:40 Peter Gerber, Brussels Airlines
«So viel Freiheit wie bei Lufthansa Cargo habe ich nicht»
Peter Gerber ist seit zehn Monaten Chef von Brussels Airlines. Im Interview erzählt er, wie er vom Personal empfangen wurde, was das Rebranding kostete, dass die Flotte bald größer als geplant sein wird - und warum Streiks in Belgien angenehmer sind als in Deutschland.


https://www.aerotelegraph.com/interview ... -ich-nicht
Quick summary of the interview:
- Much improvement expected (I guess in pax numbers) as of march
- The loan of the Belgian Governement has only to be paid back starting in 2026
- Expected to be profitable next year
- The fleet now consists of 39 aircraft, will expand before the summer
- Working toward all A320 and A320NEO fleet for short-and mediumhaul
- Hints that they are looking at A330NEO for long-haul
- North America: Currently flying to NYC and DC, Montreal not yet resumed. Looking at other destinations in USA, but 'in perspective'
- Afrika: not flying to southern Africa because the other LHG-airlines are flying there, Africa is big
- LH does NOT want to sell SN
- Plans for rebranding were already 3yrs old and did cost around €300.000
- Hiring 180 extra cabin crew, 90% of laid-off cabin crew agreed to come back
- After the pandemic, pilot shortage is expected
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lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14
Boeing767copilot wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 15:40 Peter Gerber, Brussels Airlines
«So viel Freiheit wie bei Lufthansa Cargo habe ich nicht»
Peter Gerber ist seit zehn Monaten Chef von Brussels Airlines. Im Interview erzählt er, wie er vom Personal empfangen wurde, was das Rebranding kostete, dass die Flotte bald größer als geplant sein wird - und warum Streiks in Belgien angenehmer sind als in Deutschland.


https://www.aerotelegraph.com/interview ... -ich-nicht
Quick summary of the interview:
- Much improvement expected (I guess in pax numbers) as of march
- The loan of the Belgian Governement has only to be paid back starting in 2026
- Expected to be profitable next year
- The fleet now consists of 39 aircraft, will expand before the summer
- Working toward all A320 and A320NEO fleet for short-and mediumhaul
- Hints that they are looking at A330NEO for long-haul
- North America: Currently flying to NYC and DC, Montreal not yet resumed. Looking at other destinations in USA, but 'in perspective'
- Afrika: not flying to southern Africa because the other LHG-airlines are flying there, Africa is big
- LH does NOT want to sell SN
- Plans for rebranding were already 3yrs old and did cost around €300.000
- Hiring 180 extra cabin crew, 90% of laid-off cabin crew agreed to come back
- After the pandemic, pilot shortage is expected
Why Brussels Airlines continues to believe in Africa

After relaunching its flights on the continent in June 2020, the Belgian-German company is strengthening its offer to resist the crisis and defend its positions, in particular against Air France.

[..]

To manage activity on the continent, the carrier has established six hubs - Abidjan, Dakar, Nairobi, Lagos, Douala and Johannesburg - linked with the network of two other companies integrated into the Lufthansa group, Swiss and Austrian Airlines. The different zones are managed by general managers, all headed by Brussels, which remains the African hub.

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lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14 - Working toward all A320 and A320NEO fleet for short-and mediumhaul
No A220? Even an A319 is too big for some destinations
lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14 - North America: Currently flying to NYC and DC, Montreal not yet resumed. Looking at other destinations in USA, but 'in perspective'
DEN, BOS, IAH in that order probably make sense.
MIA/MCO popular leisure destinations but harder to fill the front cabin at decent fares
lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14 - Afrika: not flying to southern Africa because the other LHG-airlines are flying there, Africa is big
In other words not enough O/D from BRU
lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14 - After the pandemic, pilot shortage is expected
So the plan to attract and hire new A320 crew is?

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longwings wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:49
lucas wrote: 10 Jan 2022, 16:14 - Working toward all A320 and A320NEO fleet for short-and mediumhaul
No A220? Even an A319 is too big for some destinations
Few things to add here: I should have said mediumhaul (and not added shorthaul). After re-reading this part of the interview I noticed that the shorthaul just isn't mentioned. In this particular question the interview(st)er asked Gerber about the A320NEO as a replacement to the A319 and if they wanted the A319 to remain or to be replaced by bigger and newer aircraft, to which he responds that they are 'looking to change the format to the A320'.

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The idea is to have an all A320 fleet, not to serve again every minimarket.
In the US - New routes would be checked based on transfer pax from Afrika.
Leisure markets still underserved due to Th Cook bankrupcy.

So not unlikely to see more activities on leisure routes were 320 size makes perfectly sense. As Swiss is having to many 330, i wont't be surprised to see 1-2 more of them transferred and even some long haul leisure routes to come.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2022

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SN rumored to start wet lease again for summer season.
Any info on this?

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