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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

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fcw wrote: 09 Sep 2026, 19:49
lumumba wrote: 09 Sep 2026, 16:41
fcw wrote: 09 Sep 2026, 10:08

Would you mind to clarify?
For Ryanair, the price difference is already much greater as a percentage, but more importantly, the public is much more price-sensitive than the Brussels Airlines public.
With all due respect, Patrice, what you wrote is completely incomprehensible.
What on earth does Ryanair have to do with the difference in taxes between AMS and BRU and the fleet renewal of BruAir?
The difference isn't between Brussels and Amsterdam, the difference is in Belgian market.
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lumumba wrote: 10 Sep 2026, 23:40 The difference isn't between Brussels and Amsterdam, the difference is in Belgian market.
lumumba wrote: 05 Sep 2026, 12:49 It is also clear that if we followed the Dutch tax policy, it would be a definite advantage for Brussels Airlines
Now you’re just confusing me even more!

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lumumba wrote: 10 Sep 2026, 23:40
fcw wrote: 09 Sep 2026, 19:49
lumumba wrote: 09 Sep 2026, 16:41

For Ryanair, the price difference is already much greater as a percentage, but more importantly, the public is much more price-sensitive than the Brussels Airlines public.
With all due respect, Patrice, what you wrote is completely incomprehensible.
What on earth does Ryanair have to do with the difference in taxes between AMS and BRU and the fleet renewal of BruAir?
The difference isn't between Brussels and Amsterdam, the difference is in Belgian market.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

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fcw wrote: 11 Sep 2026, 14:30
lumumba wrote: 10 Sep 2026, 23:40 The difference isn't between Brussels and Amsterdam, the difference is in Belgian market.
lumumba wrote: 05 Sep 2026, 12:49 It is also clear that if we followed the Dutch tax policy, it would be a definite advantage for Brussels Airlines
Now you’re just confusing me even more!
It seems clear to me, though. If we adopt the same policy as the Netherlands, it would work to Brussels Airlines' advantage in the Belgian market.

It would be even better if it were done at the European level, but unfortunately, we're not there yet.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote: 11 Sep 2026, 16:14
It seems clear to me, though. If we adopt the same policy as the Netherlands, it would work to Brussels Airlines' advantage in the Belgian market.

It would be even better if it were done at the European level, but unfortunately, we're not there yet.
Luckily, it all makes perfect sense to you. Imagine if you didn’t even understand what you’d written yourself…
The rest of us are still trying to figure out what the hell you’re talking about.

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:lol: :lol:
fcw wrote: 11 Sep 2026, 19:40
lumumba wrote: 11 Sep 2026, 16:14
It seems clear to me, though. If we adopt the same policy as the Netherlands, it would work to Brussels Airlines' advantage in the Belgian market.

It would be even better if it were done at the European level, but unfortunately, we're not there yet.
Luckily, it all makes perfect sense to you. Imagine if you didn’t even understand what you’d written yourself…
The rest of us are still trying to figure out what the hell you’re talking about.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Any info about the realisation of the installation of Starlink into the Brussels Airliens fleet?
Seems like only 1 A320 of LH is equipped by now...
Not one Brussels Airlines aircraft..
Meanwhile all SAS short haul planes have got the equipment...
Disappointing...

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Target for the whole group fleet is 2029.

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Lufthansa firmed the options of 20 B737-10. It's not yet decided where they will be allocated. Deliveries will begin as from 2030.

As we know already, the 40 B737-10 are fully for Eurowings.

Maybe something for SN to replace the older A319 and A320?

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Atlantis wrote: 18 Sep 2026, 22:40 Lufthansa firmed the options of 20 B737-10. It's not yet decided where they will be allocated. Deliveries will begin as from 2030.

As we know already, the 40 B737-10 are fully for Eurowings.

Maybe something for SN to replace the older A319 and A320?
IMHO, the 737 MAX 10s will also go for Eurowings. The last thing that SN wants is a mixed short-haul fleet.
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Atlantis wrote: 18 Sep 2026, 22:40 Lufthansa firmed the options of 20 B737-10. It's not yet decided where they will be allocated. Deliveries will begin as from 2030.

As we know already, the 40 B737-10 are fully for Eurowings.

Maybe something for SN to replace the older A319 and A320?
Small correction on my previous post, Eurowings Europe will receive the B737-8 and not -10.

We can see now that the options of the 20 B737-10 are now placed under Eurowings

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The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)

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crew1990 wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 03:21 The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)
Starlink?

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crew1990 wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 03:21 The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)
Curtain between ECO and BIZ ?

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crew1990 wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 03:21 The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)
Any news?

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Duke wrote: 01 Oct 2026, 10:10
crew1990 wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 03:21 The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)
Any news?
Starlink isn't it ;)

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crew1990 wrote: 24 Sep 2026, 03:21 The A320 and A320neo will be upgraded with a very nice feature to be gradually installed as from October. Stay tuned ;)
We announced it already in January: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... oss-fleet/

We gave more details on 10 August: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... 19-august/
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It is about indeed the curtain between Business and Economy. OO-SBE beeing the first one. Starlink is coming as well but not yet.

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crew1990 wrote: 02 Oct 2026, 14:54 It is about indeed the curtain between Business and Economy. OO-SBE beeing the first one. Starlink is coming as well but not yet.
Less expensive but very good news

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Don't want to poke or my intention is not negative, just an honest question. What makes this such good news? Again: honest question, I simply don't know...

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