Who smokes?
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Who smokes?
I wonder who smokes on this site? And if you do (or don't, it doesn't really matter) what do you think about the prohibition to smoke in planes, airports, trains and stations? Personally I don't smoke (everyone else in my class does), but I think it is stupid if you don't have a smoking departement in planes or trains. Because if you don't say where you can smoke, people will do it anywhere including non-smoking places.
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I don't smoke, I never have smoked and I have no intention of ever smoking in the future. I don't agree with smoking on board an aircraft, purely for safety reasons, as cigarettes and matches and lighters are a fire hazard which you can do without at 30,000 feet!
Having said that, I am not one of those non-smokers who think no one should be allowed to smoke anywhere. If people want to smoke, it is their right, and places should be provided for them, but if it puts safety at risk, then it should not be allowed.
Having said that, I am not one of those non-smokers who think no one should be allowed to smoke anywhere. If people want to smoke, it is their right, and places should be provided for them, but if it puts safety at risk, then it should not be allowed.
Sabena and Sobelair - gone but never forgotten.
Louise
Louise
I am extreme when it comes to smoking, there should be no smoking allowed in public places, only in the privacy of your own home.
It looks so stupid when you see 12 year old smoke, As a parent I would take my belt and show him/here who's the boss.
Going out in California is so nice, no smoking in bars, clubs, restaurants. If you smoke in California your out !!!.
It looks so stupid when you see 12 year old smoke, As a parent I would take my belt and show him/here who's the boss.
Going out in California is so nice, no smoking in bars, clubs, restaurants. If you smoke in California your out !!!.
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In California there is airborne pollution much worse than cigarette smoke -the fumes from car exhausts.
In LA there is often a brown haze caused by the pollutants from the exhaust fumes, and that is just as bad, if not worse, than the problems with cigarette smoke. So while you can go into bars and restaurants in California and have nice clean air, step outside and you are hit by the distinctive smell (LA smells of chlorine everywhere, which puts you in mind of the local swimming pool!) You cannot escape the chlorine smell in LA, which is a shame because it is a fantastic city where I have spent several holidays.
In LA there is often a brown haze caused by the pollutants from the exhaust fumes, and that is just as bad, if not worse, than the problems with cigarette smoke. So while you can go into bars and restaurants in California and have nice clean air, step outside and you are hit by the distinctive smell (LA smells of chlorine everywhere, which puts you in mind of the local swimming pool!) You cannot escape the chlorine smell in LA, which is a shame because it is a fantastic city where I have spent several holidays.
Sabena and Sobelair - gone but never forgotten.
Louise
Louise
Yep, the air is really bad in LA, its hard to understand why to stars wanna have a house in Hollywood. When you drive into LA you can see the bronze haze, and it is nasty.....
But LA is not California Louise ! and even the air pollution isn't a reason to say "just smoke, your going to get cancer anyway".
But LA is not California Louise ! and even the air pollution isn't a reason to say "just smoke, your going to get cancer anyway".
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I know that LA is not California Bob, but LA is in California and as such has the same rules on smoking, that is what I am getting at. You can get nice clean air in restaurants and places like that, then you go outside and get your lungs full of that chlorinated air. It is no good clamping down on one form of pollutant whilst allowing another to flourish. That is the whole point I was trying to put across.
Sabena and Sobelair - gone but never forgotten.
Louise
Louise
I stopped smoking, only on vacations I like some cigarettes during a beer or bbq. I am not as extreme as BobClaes but think it is great that no smoking is allowed in planes, busses and trains. Even in the time when I smoked I tried to avoid the smoking area in a train since you can hardly breath in there. I do think people should be allowed to smoke in a bar and also in a seperated area in a restaurant.
Greetz,
Erwin
Greetz,
Erwin
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I agree 100% !!!!!Comet wrote:I don't smoke, I never have smoked and I have no intention of ever smoking in the future. I don't agree with smoking on board an aircraft, purely for safety reasons, as cigarettes and matches and lighters are a fire hazard which you can do without at 30,000 feet!
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I never touched one cigarette and certainly don't intend to do so.
I hate the smell, and find it disgusting that when you go to a tea-room/snackbar somewhere, you have to eat while being surrounded by smokers.
Smokers talk about discrimination of smoking these days, I think it becomes time to think about the discrimination of non-smokers. I hope we will follow the example of certain American cities were smoking in public areas is prohibited.
Frederic
I hate the smell, and find it disgusting that when you go to a tea-room/snackbar somewhere, you have to eat while being surrounded by smokers.
Smokers talk about discrimination of smoking these days, I think it becomes time to think about the discrimination of non-smokers. I hope we will follow the example of certain American cities were smoking in public areas is prohibited.
Frederic
Brussels Airlines - Flying Your Way
I do...
I'm afraid I do smoke. I'll have to quit someday. Acually, I did quit once and didn't smoke one for three years...
Of course, I agree with the ban on smoking in every public area, especially planes and restaurants. For that matter, I even avoid lighting a cigarette at home when I've got non smoking friends at my table.
Of course, I agree with the ban on smoking in every public area, especially planes and restaurants. For that matter, I even avoid lighting a cigarette at home when I've got non smoking friends at my table.
Well I've don't have anything against smokers but I think those people who smoke should take their responsability and go outside to smoke a cigarette instead of irritating those who don't smoke. The thing I hate most about smoking is that by example when you are going out, you can just were your clothes once, cause when you return, the smell of the smoke is that "deep" in it you first have to wash them before you can were them again not smelling 
Grtz
Grtz
Re: Who smokes?
The server of Luchtzak.be after this heated discussionsab319 wrote:I wonder who smokes on this site?
PS: I don't
André
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ex Sabena #26567
Re: Who smokes?
sn26567 wrote:The server of Luchtzak.be after this heated discussionsab319 wrote:I wonder who smokes on this site?![]()
PS: I don't
You should become a comic
Greetz,
Don't dream your life, live your dream !!!
I don't smoke either 
Personally I do agree with most of you here. Smoking should be forbidden in all public places, offices etc..
Smoking is a personal choice but doing so incommodates more people than just the smoker him/herself.
The biggest problems in planes was that the air from the smoking section spread throughout the plane and in the end even if only two or three people smoked, everybody else on the plane suffered the odor
ciao,
TriStar
Personally I do agree with most of you here. Smoking should be forbidden in all public places, offices etc..
Smoking is a personal choice but doing so incommodates more people than just the smoker him/herself.
The biggest problems in planes was that the air from the smoking section spread throughout the plane and in the end even if only two or three people smoked, everybody else on the plane suffered the odor
ciao,
TriStar
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That's not very pleasent. Imagine a 12hour flight where 2 people smoke and you don't, BUT you have to smell their stench for 12 hours! HORRIBLE!!!L-1011 wrote: The biggest problems in planes was that the air from the smoking section spread throughout the plane and in the end even if only two or three people smoked, everybody else on the plane suffered the odor
ciao,
TriStar
P.S.: I don't hate smokers, only the fact they smoke!
Greets sab319
Hi all,
I stopped smoking about 3 years ago after I read the book from the famous Alan Carr. Muisje stopped 1 day later.
I definetely needed to stop because at the end I smoked 40 cigarettes of Marlobrol Red per day! And I did a medical breathing-test and the amount of litres that I blew wasn't sufficient (my idea).
The last months before I quit I woke up in the morning, had my 2 cigarettes together with a cup of coffee but going to work was even worse: 5-7 cigarettes before the flight commenced! Later in the book I found out that you smoke a lot before the time that you are not allowed to do so anymore... My most dreadfull days where you arrived somewhere in München on a remote position with 30 minute-rotation, returned to Brussels (same thing) and had to do another flight afterwards on remote-position too! Horrible... at that time: 8 hours without a smoke, because nowadays I use all my empty space to read my newspaper and do some planespotting
I am not against smoking, some of my friends do so and if I go to them it's my own descision to join them in the smoke. I even like a cigar from time to time
But what I don't like is the so-called ash-tray smell: you arrive somewhere, nobody is smoking but you can smell it... There is a place that I often visit and the smoking-area supposed to be closed but the smokers keep the door open with an obstacle because they are bothered too much of the smoke inside the area! But they never asked themselves: don't we bother the non-smokers? Hélas, that's the small little monster inside the smokers brains saying: "Smoke, smoke, nicotine, inhale, etc...."
One tip for our youngsters around: don't start: it's of no use, it costs alot of money (even if you buy duty-free
), ...
for the smokers around us: try the 'stop smoking thanks to Alan Carr'-book once.
greetings,
Bart
:rock:
I stopped smoking about 3 years ago after I read the book from the famous Alan Carr. Muisje stopped 1 day later.
I definetely needed to stop because at the end I smoked 40 cigarettes of Marlobrol Red per day! And I did a medical breathing-test and the amount of litres that I blew wasn't sufficient (my idea).
The last months before I quit I woke up in the morning, had my 2 cigarettes together with a cup of coffee but going to work was even worse: 5-7 cigarettes before the flight commenced! Later in the book I found out that you smoke a lot before the time that you are not allowed to do so anymore... My most dreadfull days where you arrived somewhere in München on a remote position with 30 minute-rotation, returned to Brussels (same thing) and had to do another flight afterwards on remote-position too! Horrible... at that time: 8 hours without a smoke, because nowadays I use all my empty space to read my newspaper and do some planespotting
I am not against smoking, some of my friends do so and if I go to them it's my own descision to join them in the smoke. I even like a cigar from time to time
But what I don't like is the so-called ash-tray smell: you arrive somewhere, nobody is smoking but you can smell it... There is a place that I often visit and the smoking-area supposed to be closed but the smokers keep the door open with an obstacle because they are bothered too much of the smoke inside the area! But they never asked themselves: don't we bother the non-smokers? Hélas, that's the small little monster inside the smokers brains saying: "Smoke, smoke, nicotine, inhale, etc...."
One tip for our youngsters around: don't start: it's of no use, it costs alot of money (even if you buy duty-free
for the smokers around us: try the 'stop smoking thanks to Alan Carr'-book once.
greetings,
Bart
:rock:
Here is how we did, back in the Sabena years.sab319 wrote:Imagine a 12hour flight where 2 people smoke and you don't, BUT you have to smell their stench for 12 hours! Greets sab319L-1011 wrote: The biggest problems in planes was that the air from the smoking section spread throughout the plane ...TriStar
We were and still are non smokers... So when we were on duty staff travel in the time when it was still allowed to smoke on Sabena airplanes, CRV or B737, we travelled on duty in the front cabin. What did we do? We got in time @ Zaventem and got our boarding passes quite early and we took smoker-seats. Once on board, we of course all took our smokers seats. In case there were smokers on board in the front cabine, they complained to the pursers, who pretended to ask us if we would like to shift seats. But as most of the pursers were very happy for once to work in a smoke free environment, they went back after a play act, sometimes in Tati-style with: Sorry, these people have a meeting to prepare and will need to sit next to each other for a couple hours more...
So long before airlines got smoke free we travelled smoke free, and we advised they passengers who complained about the smok, to do the same: request a smoker seat and do not smoke so the cabine will be smoke free...
Guess who won in the end...
PS I got me an "Optical Mouse' made in China. I had some fears how to connect it... but I just plugged it in the USB and unplugged the old PS/2 one and it worked. So the chinese text on box has only one translation: GIVE OUT LIGHT, and indeed my new mouse has some blue and red neon -like shine, and it works. Including the scrolling whee.l I paid 3Euro... VAT Incl... How do they do that?