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SFo
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EBCI Closed Again

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Not the union's fault, this time. Airport was closed at about 2000Z because of thuderstorms. ATIS was announcing gusts at 30kts :shock: and closing until 0400Z. You should have seen all these Ryanairs lining up on the ILS approach of 05R in EBLG at 11PM. I was lucky to see that from the circuit (and sneak between two of them to land). :lol:

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11pm is already very busy at LGG, since all TNT flights land in the same time.

Must have been a crazy rush hour :)
Do you know if they used the 2 tracks ? (is the second long enough for the 737 ? seems that they used it when the main one was on work)

what do you mean by "see from the circuit ?"

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Post by SFo »

Acid-drop wrote:11pm is already very busy at LGG, since all TNT flights land in the same time.

Must have been a crazy rush hour :)
Do you know if they used the 2 tracks ? (is the second long enough for the 737 ? seems that they used it when the main one was on work)
No, they stacked everyone on 5R. Personally I've never seen 5L/23R in use at EBLG. Anyway, I think they're too close for parallel landing.
Acid-drop wrote:what do you mean by "see from the circuit ?"
I meant in the airfield standard right-hand circuit (crosswind/downwind/base/final). I was flying VFR so I had plenty of time looking at the arrival queue while doing my downwind.

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Re: EBCI Closed Again

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SFo wrote:Not the union's fault, this time. Airport was closed at about 2000Z because of thuderstorms. ATIS was announcing gusts at 30kts :shock: and closing until 0400Z. You should have seen all these Ryanairs lining up on the ILS approach of 05R in EBLG at 11PM. I was lucky to see that from the circuit (and sneak between two of them to land). :lol:
Gusts at 30 knots is nothing compared to the 18 January storm, why would the airport close just for that ? Or maybe crosswinds but I doubt it since they could land at Liege ?

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the storm in liege didnt come before 1am, and was not that strong actually.

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The weather radar this night.

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Post by pilatus »

It is not the gust 30 that is the real problem but the very unstable direction of the wind and the big change of windshear.
We had thunderstorms last night blokking our apr to Ema coming from Bfs. Even the poor controller of Manchester Control was loosing control. Everyone was asking deviation due to weather. So she told to all aircraft "Just deviated as you want and only tell me your new heading" as it was really getting to busy. Specially as a big cell was located near the standard holding point.
Later we had the same problem in Bru as a big thunderstorm was located near Bun.

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Post by Pikey »

Hi Pilatus,



still enjoying night flights on the A-300? Imagine this situation at MAD. 2 words for you then: GOOD LUCK, never thrust the controllers @ MAD.
Still looking for another job? Are you not bonded for 3 years because you worked at CSD?

Regards,
Pikey

SFo
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Re: EBCI Closed Again

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stefanel wrote:Gusts at 30 knots is nothing compared to the 18 January storm, why would the airport close just for that ? Or maybe crosswinds but I doubt it since they could land at Liege ?
Liege was pretty calm at the same moment, not even raining and W/V 110/10. If the wind was gusting at 30kts on 110 and it was heavily raining it can be much of a problem in Charleroi as 07 only has a VOR/DME and no ILS. Besides, Liege as Cat I-III on both RWYs.

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Re: EBCI Closed Again

Post by Stella_Caeli »

SFo wrote:
stefanel wrote:Gusts at 30 knots is nothing compared to the 18 January storm, why would the airport close just for that ? Or maybe crosswinds but I doubt it since they could land at Liege ?
Liege was pretty calm at the same moment, not even raining and W/V 110/10. If the wind was gusting at 30kts on 110 and it was heavily raining it can be much of a problem in Charleroi as 07 only has a VOR/DME and no ILS. Besides, Liege as Cat I-III on both RWYs.
Are you sure? :wink:

23L is CAT I, II and III.
05R and 23R are CAT I only.
05L has no ILS.
Source: AIP.

The reason why 05L/23R is not used as a runway at this moment can be found in the NOTAM (WIP).

Kind regards,
Sebastian

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Re: EBCI Closed Again

Post by SFo »

Stella_Caeli wrote:Are you sure? :wink:

23L is CAT I, II and III.
05R and 23R are CAT I only.
05L has no ILS.
Source: AIP.

The reason why 05L/23R is not used as a runway at this moment can be found in the NOTAM (WIP).
Not sure at all, I didn't check the CATs. :) But even before the WIP, the 05L/23R was seldom used, no?

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