Antwerp airport saved

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 09 Jun 2007, 17:39

Yesterday the Flemish government announced that they will move the R11 road at the end of the runway at Antwerp Airport to be able to create the required safety zone as dictated by ICAO, this move should enable the airport to grow in the future.

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/cm/vrtnieuws.n ... Krijgsbaan#

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 09 Jun 2007, 17:43

R11 road at the end of the runway at Antwerp Airport

On your GPS:
R11links
Antwerpen: Hoboken (N148) - Wilrijk - Mortsel - Deurne (N12)

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 09 Jun 2007, 18:04

Very good news and wise choice from the politicians.

Now it will become possible to lengthen the runway in the future.
Maybe it will look a bit like like the tunnel under the 25L at BRU...

With respect to environmentalists, I don't tink you can really start pro-environmental movements in Belgium: the country is densily populated and its surface is too small to make an amazonial forest out of it: it's a problem of scale.

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 09 Jun 2007, 22:34

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:Now it will become possible to lengthen the runway in the future.
Maybe it will look a bit like like the tunnel under the 25L at BRU...

Lengthening the runway seems highly improbable to me. Perhaps a starter extension, so that 29 take-offs are higher over the city. But that would not open the airport to bigger planes. No need for these, either, it is a nice business airport today and even the NIMBY's and environmentalists have come to live with the present taffic. No need to perturb them.

I fail to comprehend how you can see a tunnel: the new construction was chosen so as to avoid having to build a tunnel, I understand.

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 10 Jun 2007, 00:17

The runway will be lengthened and a displaced threshold will be built (At hte moment there is none) and maybe also a stopway.

There will be a tunnel.

Read this http: http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_48 ... kanaalArt8

The idea is mainly to accomodate business aviation but VLM is also very happy with the news.
Maybe additional carriers will find their way to ANR?

The new construction is not built to avoid the construction of a tunnel but in order to have to build a very short tunnel instead of a long one.
Actually it will look more like a bridge than a tunnel it seems...

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 11 Jun 2007, 00:05

One of the reasons why Flemish Government has reached an agreement with the anti-airport mayor of the Borsbeek (the neighboor town) are the traffic lights on the very busy Krijgsbaan (better known as Militaire Baan). As per today, all traffic on that Krijgsbaan is put on hold by ANR's ATC when a two engine plane has to take off or land (11 or 29, doens't matter). And not only for final approach: sometimes, you can see them make their last u-turn before landing, with traffic lights already on red. With the new road and the semi-tunnel, there will be no traffic lights anymore. For the citizens of Borsbeek, this will be a huge saving in time.

The runway (1.510m) will not be extended, but planes will be able to count it's full length (= without deduction of the actual safety parameter).

runway details:
www.antwerpairport.be/en/sub/pilot/baaneings.htm

general info:
http://www.antwerpairport.be/en/index.html

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 11 Jun 2007, 19:23

Well I don't understand... they are using the full length now already... aren't they?
If you don't extend the runway or you don't add a stopway or a dispaced threshold, I don't see what use it has to have more space... since an airplane needs more length to take-off than to land and it seems that the first can become an issue in case of an aborted-take-off... The decision speed V1 can only be increased if there is more tarmac available...

The red lights are also set on red for single-engines for students performing solo's and in days of heavy wind.
Damned, those lights can cause some cues.... In addition, the R11 has only 1 stroke coming from Mortsel, it's a real ecological disaster on rush hours!!

Post by **Bruspotter** » 11 Jun 2007, 21:42

Hello

It's really great news for EBAW, really.

But to what I've heard they would really be planning how they're going to stretch up the Runway, don't ask me what they are going to do with the fortress of Borsbeek, I don't have a clu, and the road will idd. be partially moved and only a short tunnel would be made (to save costs and time).

If they lengthen the runway, there will certainly come new airlines at EBAW, they wouldn't get out of the costs elseworth

Best regards: Yannick

Spotter 22 · Post by **Spotter 22** » 12 Jun 2007, 00:03

Maybe they now can finally make a new website...Don't want to offend anyone but it's one of the worst airport website's in Europe...looks very unprofessional imo...

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 12 Jun 2007, 00:07

The runway length indeed is 1.510m, but as from 2003, international airport safety standards oblige an extra safety area for each runway. At this moment, there is no such "free ride" for 29, so VLM has to calculate their max take off weight at a reduced length.

With the new detour for the Krijgsbaan, there will be space for this safety parameter.

I don't find VLM's press release from 8th June about this, but I have this link to an article in Gazet van Antwerpen (do feel free to translate it)...

http://tinyurl.com/2c99oq

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 14 Jun 2007, 11:05

I've heard somewhere that Antwerp Airport is going to receive EU support and that new routes and airlines will be welcomed very well.

Gliderpilot · Post by **Gliderpilot** » 14 Jun 2007, 12:07

in dutch: http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?id=20630

They 're going to receive €4,1 million EU subsidies to welcome three new airlines -1,4m each- or to open new routes with existing airlines.

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