SNBA Avro almost hit by a RAF Jaguar (02-JUL-02)
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SNBA Avro almost hit by a RAF Jaguar (02-JUL-02)
One day after the mid-air collision between a DHL Boeing 757 and a Bashkirian Airlines Tu-154, a SNBA Avro RJ-85 almost collided with a RAF Jaguar, missing each other by 100ft (30m) vertically.
The RJ85 and Jaguar were in class G uncontrolled airspace, the SNBA aircraft in contact with Newcastle flying at a cleared 7,000ft level in cloud.
The Jaguar pilot, climbing rapidly away from low level was in the process of calling London military control for identification.
He had not established contact before the aircraft entered cloud at about 6,000ft.
The RJ85 pilots saw and heard the Jaguar pass beneath them on a reciprocal course just after they had responded to a TCAS resolution advisory and had climbed about 200ft but the Jaguar pilot (not TCAS-equiped) was unaware of the incident.
The RJ85 and Jaguar were in class G uncontrolled airspace, the SNBA aircraft in contact with Newcastle flying at a cleared 7,000ft level in cloud.
The Jaguar pilot, climbing rapidly away from low level was in the process of calling London military control for identification.
He had not established contact before the aircraft entered cloud at about 6,000ft.
The RJ85 pilots saw and heard the Jaguar pass beneath them on a reciprocal course just after they had responded to a TCAS resolution advisory and had climbed about 200ft but the Jaguar pilot (not TCAS-equiped) was unaware of the incident.
I have to look it up but I think that the airmiss that happend that day was an other one!!!! Indeed the one with the jaguar happend but I think that day the airmiss was between an SNBA AVRO and a PANAVIA TORNADO!!
Last week the UK CAA held a press-conference and this incident was announced as the most dangerous incident of 2003 in the UK Airspace.
The AVRO was flying towards NCL. As suddenly the TCAS went crazy! What happend?? A RAF Tornado was flying underneath the clouddeck. For a reason I don't know he decided to make a high energy climb resulting in a Rate of Climb of +10.000 (!!) feet/minute ... Passing the Avro at nearly 65ft and then he ended up in upper controled airspace! the cabincrew even heared the roar of the Afterburner!
In some of the UK tabloids the Captain of this flight is called a hero!! Really!!! Because he has avoided the accident ... But if you talk to the Capt. he will tell you that all of this happend in a timeframe of less then 4 seconds ... he even did not had the time to dissconnect the autopilot!
The CAA made a calculation ... the RJ had only 5 (!!) percent chance to survive!!!
The RAF-pilot .... grounded...
Last week the UK CAA held a press-conference and this incident was announced as the most dangerous incident of 2003 in the UK Airspace.
The AVRO was flying towards NCL. As suddenly the TCAS went crazy! What happend?? A RAF Tornado was flying underneath the clouddeck. For a reason I don't know he decided to make a high energy climb resulting in a Rate of Climb of +10.000 (!!) feet/minute ... Passing the Avro at nearly 65ft and then he ended up in upper controled airspace! the cabincrew even heared the roar of the Afterburner!
In some of the UK tabloids the Captain of this flight is called a hero!! Really!!! Because he has avoided the accident ... But if you talk to the Capt. he will tell you that all of this happend in a timeframe of less then 4 seconds ... he even did not had the time to dissconnect the autopilot!
The CAA made a calculation ... the RJ had only 5 (!!) percent chance to survive!!!
The RAF-pilot .... grounded...
Jester wrote:I have to look it up but I think that the airmiss that happend that day was an other one!!!! Indeed the one with the jaguar happend but I think that day the airmiss was between an SNBA AVRO and a PANAVIA TORNADO!!
Last week the UK CAA held a press-conference and this incident was announced as the most dangerous incident of 2003 in the UK Airspace.
According to the CAA website :
24-oct-2003: The ninth report of the UK Airprox Board (UKAB) was published today. It covers statistics for all of 2002 together with findings on Airprox incidents filed between July to December 2002.
The near-miss on 02-JUL-02 was indeed a JAGUAR.
The statistics covering 2003 are not released yet...