Short-haul routes with heavies in Europe

golf1411 · Post by **golf1411** » 19 Sep 2006, 19:45

In previous posts I mentioned the LAN A340-300 flying the Frankfurt-Madrid route.
We have the LH A300 on domestic routes and the KLM A330 flying to Heathrow.
Can you think of other short-haul routes with heavies in Europe?

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 19 Sep 2006, 19:49

on some routes BA uses a B767 (LHR - ATH), OA uses it's A300's and A340's on flights to LHR and CDG (and occasionally other destinations), EI flies DUB-SNN on the A330 and of course Iberia flies the A340 to Tenerife from Madrid.

AF332 · Post by **AF332** » 19 Sep 2006, 19:55

Turkish Airlines flies to many European destinations with their Airbus A330-200 fleet (f.e. IST-DUS).

golf1411 · Post by **golf1411** » 19 Sep 2006, 20:44

I've heard that LH sometimes uses the A340-600 on the FRANKFURT-MUNICH route. Can somebody confirm this?
I know that IBERIA sometimes uses the A346 from Madrid to Tenerife Nord.

Captain · Post by **Captain** » 19 Sep 2006, 23:09

BA often uses a B767 to NCE, used to have a 767 to BRU too and I think still uses a 767 to FRA as well as other high capacity short haul European routes.

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 20 Sep 2006, 08:44

KLM B763/A332 AMS-LHR

pilatus · Post by **pilatus** » 20 Sep 2006, 11:32

And we use the A300 on Bru-Cgn and even daily Bgy-Mxp.
This is cargo but short flights with heavy aircraft

Greetz,

DiverDriver

Post by **sn26567** » 20 Sep 2006, 11:45

Occasionally LH uses the A300-600 on BRU-FRA

bxleu · Post by **bxleu** » 20 Sep 2006, 13:12

LH uses A300-600 on LH4532/3 FRA-LIS

Air_littoral · Post by **Air_littoral** » 20 Sep 2006, 13:49

Also AF flies 744 on their domestic Orly-Ajaccio.
Those a/c used to be the same as those flying to the French Carribean, so high density versions. Now they are replacing their 744 fleet to the 'DOM/TOM' by 777, I don't know what will happen for the some ORY-AJA operated on 744...

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 20 Sep 2006, 14:53

I remember Sabena flying 747 to PMI, AGP...
Specialised in scheduled heavies on short haul are the Japanese cies.
TG scheduled 777s CNX<>BKK.
But in Europe I do not find scheduled heavies on short haul.

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 20 Sep 2006, 19:20

I remember being on a BA 767 to Paris once and a British Airtours Tristar to Malaga as well but this was quite a while ago.

Other than that I vaguely remember flying DXB to MAN on an SQ 747 - maybe about 1988? It stopped in Frankfurt or something on the way - does that count?!!!

Post by **airbuske** » 20 Sep 2006, 19:31

Didn't Sobelair used the 767 to ALC sometimes ?

Robin_Bamps · Post by **Robin_Bamps** » 20 Sep 2006, 20:36

Air Namibia operated Frankfurt-London quite a while before continuing to Windhuk. Flight was operated by B747.

Ghana Airways operated an Accra-Hamburg-Düsseldorf-Accra flight until 2004 with DC-10's. Hamburg-Düsseldorf is a German domestic leg on the route.

Ethiopian Airlines is currently flying a B763 between Paris CDG and BRU.

Regards, Robin Bamps.

PS: Sometimes there is pax also on the AMS-BRU leg by Martinair (B763).

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 21 Sep 2006, 11:25

golf1411 wrote:I've heard that LH sometimes uses the A340-600 on the FRANKFURT-MUNICH route. Can somebody confirm this?
I know that IBERIA sometimes uses the A346 from Madrid to Tenerife Nord.

Last sunday I saw an IB A346 taking off from LPA (Las Palmas, Gran Canaria), no doubt it was going to peninsular Spain as well. And we were stuck in a HV 73H for 4+ hours to AMS!

I must say though, IB doesn't ever seem to wash their planes. Either that, or the washing is being done by the same crews that 'wash' the toilets at Spanish airports.

SN_Bigbirdy · Post by **SN_Bigbirdy** » 21 Sep 2006, 11:35

I read in Airlinerworld that Finnair is using its first A340-311 (OH-LQA) on domestic flights, I thought it was only for 30 flights, to train the long-haul crew.

Simon

b720 · Post by **b720** » 21 Sep 2006, 17:26

I recall taking Pan Am 747 (west) Berlin Tegel to Frankfurt back in 1985...
More recently Bey-DXB AB330 BEY-CDG AB330

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 22 Sep 2006, 10:59

Kind of off-topic (as it is not in Europe), but perhaps it is worth mentioning here that Iran Air flight 655, the one shot down over the gulf by the USS Vincennes in 1988, was an Airbus A300 which was supposed to do a 28-minute flight across the gulf.

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 22 Sep 2006, 14:20

I remember taking a Pan American 747 (N741PA) on a scheduled flight Amsterdam - Brussels ( 3 october 1971).

Stij · Post by **Stij** » 22 Sep 2006, 15:28

My heavy flights

in EU:

Brussels Frankfurt A310 (Lufthansa)
Frankfurt Nueremberg A310 (Lufthansa)
Sevilla Madrid A300 (Iberia)
Helsinki Ivalo MD11* (Finnair)
Amsterdam Frankfurt B742 (Varig)
Brussels Malaga A333 (Sabena)
* This was fun, Ivalo is sooooo small, and the MD11 is sooooooo huge.

in South Africa

Johannesburg Capetown A300 (South African)
Durban Johannesburg A300 (South African)

in Brazil

Manaus Brasilia Rio de Janeiro DC10 (Varig)
Rio de janeiro Salvador de Bahia B742 (Varig)

in China

Xiamen Beijing B762 (Air China)
Xiamen Shanghai A310 (China Eastern)
Beijing Shanghai A330 (Air China operated by Dragonair)
Shanghai Beijing B763 (Hainan Airlines)

in USA

Orlando Miami B741 (Pan Am)
Boston Salt lake City B762 (Is this still "short") (Delta)
Salt Lake City Tristar! (Is this still "short") (Delta)

In Japan

Tokyo Sapporo B744 (ANA)
Sapporo Tokyo B744 (My only time on the second floor!!!!!!!!) (ANA)

Cheers,

Stij

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