low-cost carriers among the safest in the US

killerwhale65 · Post by **killerwhale65** » 21 Mar 2006, 18:35

A study from San Jose State University revealed that low-cost carriers are safer then the mainline and regional carriers in the US:

More info on http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... +list.html

SOURCE: Flight International

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 21 Mar 2006, 19:33

And how long have these low-cost carriers been around compared to their legacy competitors?? This must be taken within context.

killerwhale65 · Post by **killerwhale65** » 21 Mar 2006, 20:16

the study is done between 2000 and 2004, excluding 9/11.

Tommypilot · Post by **Tommypilot** » 21 Mar 2006, 20:31

Finally some good news after the "chip-chap" on media and forums about low cost carriers being unsafe... 8)

n5528p · Post by **n5528p** » 22 Mar 2006, 21:42

Again such a nice picture - but never trust a statistic you did not forge yourself.

What I am missing are some facts which could alter the result in both directions: more or less load cycles, more difficult destinations, different types of aircraft in one fleet (mentioned), different routes (weather), different regulations...

You simply cannot pack such a large industry in one drawing.

Regards, Bernhard

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 23 Mar 2006, 03:29

You simply cannot pack such a large industry in one drawing.

However people still do it to paint a rosy picture.

Eurapart · Post by **Eurapart** » 26 Mar 2006, 22:27

Low cost airlines rely on high load factors to make a profit. They operate on highly competitive routes with no subsidies. If they have a crash their load factor will go down taking the airline with it. Remember what happened to Valujet.

If you were running a low cost airline would you try to cut safety?

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 27 Mar 2006, 12:14

Eurapart wrote:Low cost airlines rely on high load factors to make a profit. They operate on highly competitive routes with no subsidies. If they have a crash their load factor will go down taking the airline with it. Remember what happened to Valujet.

If you were running a low cost airline would you try to cut safety?

To save costs, of course. Then, after some time, one of your planes crashes, and your company goes gear up. Then you start a new company, and buy the planes from the old company at bargain prices, take over most of the staff, and start flying again. Repeat if necessary. I'm sure it's more profitable in the long run than paying any attention to that silly thing called 'safety'.

jelger · Post by **jelger** » 27 Mar 2006, 13:08

Eurapart wrote:Low cost airlines rely on high load factors to make a profit. They operate on highly competitive routes with no subsidies. If they have a crash their load factor will go down taking the airline with it. Remember what happened to Valujet.

If you were running a low cost airline would you try to cut safety?

some people have a naive thinking when it comes to low-cost carriers and their cutting-costs on everything EXCEPT safety

philosophy..

i bet you that there are many companies stretching the limit. (probably not JUST LCC carriers, but nonetheless ALSO LCC carriers.... )

Moni · Post by **Moni** » 05 Apr 2006, 01:10

necessary investment in regional development

can we discuss it?

i would like find the arguments to justify this thesis

thans a lot for your help

Schep · Post by **Schep** » 05 Apr 2006, 13:48

Did you see the BBC documentary on VTM about Ryanair?
What do you thing about that? Security examination with the books, tired crew, ...

Regards,

Schep

fokker_f27 · Post by **fokker_f27** » 05 Apr 2006, 13:55

Schep wrote:Did you see the BBC documentary on VTM about Ryanair?
What do you thing about that? Security examination with the books, tired crew, ...

Regards,

Schep

I think it's chit-chat. No carrier that can afford aircraft maintenance would cut it to make profit. If the FAA or the NTSB would notice that, then you're really busted.

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low-cost carriers among the safest in the US

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