Qantas blocks SIA to fly to L.A. from Australia

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Qantas blocks SIA to fly to L.A. from Australia

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Qantas has successfully argued with the Australian government not to allow Singapore Airlines to fly from Australia to L.A.
They claim if SIA is allowed there will be lots of job losses in Qantas as they may not able to compete against lower staff salaries and overheads of SIA flights.
But on the other hand Qantas is threatening the maintenance union to sacrifice some Qantas maintenance workers rights and allowances otherwise Qantas will take maintenance business to China and sack the current Qantas maintenance workers (or majority of them at least).

What a hipocracy??? Qantas is using the Australian job cards to stop SIA but has no hesitation to sack their maintenance workers...

What is your opinion about this?? :roll: :?:

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Qantas is protecting its turf and its profits. Sound management, how painful it sounds for the workers...
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Yes it sounds horrible for the workers. You basically don't know when you will be retrenched. I am sure Qantas will not hesitate to send their maintenance jobs to China for a minute if the negotiations fail with the union. ...And they will still call themselves as "The Australian Airlines".

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Oh these plights and arguments! Some of these can be really pathetic

However, the SIN-SYD/MEL-LAX flight doesn't really make any sense to me. For it to work, 100% of the transpacific traffic must originate in Australia. That'd be unfair to Qantas. I know that Qantas is flying to a lot of destinations through SIN but that's cuz it is the ideal geographical (and logical) stopover for these routes. Wouldn't SIA be outraged if Qantas were to fly to LAX via Singapore?

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well when you have only 2 airliners Qantas and United are regularly flying between US and Australia with high loading figures everybody wants to fly on this route.
There are incidents the passengers have to wait or even change their holidays due to full flights. If you have an urgent thing to attend --good luck --you might wait couple of days for an available seat even camp at the airport everyday, just in case if a passenger don't turn up.

Dear RyanCX, I think your job is safe that's why you think the job security question is not important to you....but if you have an unstable employment you can't plan your own life...!!

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Post by Vinnie-Winnie »

Good for Qantas, bad for the regular passengers who have to keep up with higher fares due to lack of competition!

When will there finally be a global open-sky agreement? (hahaha imagine SN flying this route lol)

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Well, there are three, not two, flying between Australia and the U.S.: United, Qantas, AND Air New Zealand.

Qantas is trying to stop the "flood gate" of other airlines to fly the transpacific. If SIA got it, then you'll have Emirates and Cathay asking for it too. Companies like monopoly, period.

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I think the main worry for QF is that Virgin Blue are looking at long haul to the USA !

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not just looking, they will... :wink:

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I welcome any new competition and choice. It will be good for us.

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CXRules wrote: Well, there are three, not two, flying between Australia and the U.S.: United, Qantas, AND Air New Zealand.

I am very sorry, CXRules, but, Air New Zealand does not fly between Australia & the USA West Coast anymore. Not directly, they fly to Auckland then onto Los Angeles.
They used to but, they stopped that service some years ago, probably because the Australians changed the rules(as they do quite often)

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hakan wrote:well when you have only 2 airliners Qantas and United are regularly flying between US and Australia with high loading figures everybody wants to fly on this route.
There are incidents the passengers have to wait or even change their holidays due to full flights. If you have an urgent thing to attend --good luck --you might wait couple of days for an available seat even camp at the airport everyday, just in case if a passenger don't turn up.

Dear RyanCX, I think your job is safe that's why you think the job security question is not important to you....but if you have an unstable employment you can't plan your own life...!!
If it really is a matter of competition, AA , CO or NWA would be a more convincing candidate.
and Air Canada will be entering the LAX-SYD market this summer apparently. Hopefully that resolves some of the competition-related issues you were talking about.
I'm not working, but I do realise how important people would find to make sure they are stable in their jobs, but my point there was that giving SIA those rights would be very unfair on Qantas.

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If it really is a matter of competition, AA , CO or NWA would be a more convincing candidate.


AA and Qantas are both OneWorld members so it would be interesting to see how that one would pan out. Do any airlines operate the 777 between LAX and Australia?? If not then we could eliminate CO and AA cause that's their biggest bird!!
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Knight255 wrote:
If it really is a matter of competition, AA , CO or NWA would be a more convincing candidate.


AA and Qantas are both OneWorld members so it would be interesting to see how that one would pan out. Do any airlines operate the 777 between LAX and Australia?? If not then we could eliminate CO and AA cause that's their biggest bird!!
no....but i think Air Canada plan too.

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