What happens at SNBA?

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 23 Feb 2006, 18:31

After Rob Kuijpers (>Aviapartner) and Peter Davies (>BWIA), now Philip Saunders is also leaving SNBA (>Star Alliance).....

source: Travel Magazine Aviation Newsletter

burner737 · Post by **burner737** » 23 Feb 2006, 18:48

I think there's only one reason for this !!!
The belgian government !!!

Regards Tim

Vinnie-Winnie · Post by **Vinnie-Winnie** » 23 Feb 2006, 19:38

burner737 wrote:I think there's only one reason for this !!!
The belgian government !!!

Regards Tim

Well next time U got the chance get rid of it!

Tommypilot · Post by **Tommypilot** » 23 Feb 2006, 19:58

burner737 wrote:I think there's only one reason for this !!!
The belgian government !!!

Wondering who will be the next victim...

In the case it would be the government I would like to see some evidences...

Post by **sn26567** » 24 Feb 2006, 10:59

burner737 wrote:I think there's only one reason for this !!!
The belgian government !!!

Bullshit! SN BA is run as an completely independent company. The real reason is the free market: talents come and go where they get the best conditions.

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 24 Feb 2006, 13:49

There is a French locution which could perhaps apply here : "Les rats quittent le navire", meaning something like : "the rats are leaving the sinking ship"...

SierraFoxtrotMike · Post by **SierraFoxtrotMike** » 24 Feb 2006, 14:35

Thanks for that comment jan_olieslagers ! For the first time there is somebody who knows what he is talking about ! Unfounded comments should be banned !!!!

BrightCedars · Post by **BrightCedars** » 24 Feb 2006, 15:13

jan_olieslagers wrote:real pilots fly taildraggers
real drivers sync gears themselves
real IT-ers work from the command line

I understand your comments and even share it but I couldn't resist to this one either: Real men hunt their food - are you hunting during the weekend or paying a visit to Colruyt?

SierraFoxtrotMike · Post by **SierraFoxtrotMike** » 24 Feb 2006, 16:44

BrightCedars wrote:are you hunting during the weekend or paying a visit to Colruyt?

No to Rob !

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 24 Feb 2006, 17:50

Title from this topic is : what happens at SNBA?

So : what happened to SN3667 and SN2555 today? Both flights are announced as BRU-BRU, thus return to the gate after push back.

24/02 10:23 Brussels-Brussels SN3667 11:03

24/02 15:51 Brussels-Brussels SN2555

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 24 Feb 2006, 19:03

SierraFoxtrotMike wrote:Thanks for that comment jan_olieslagers ! For the first time there is somebody who knows what he is talking about ! Unfounded comments should be banned !!!!

I have the greatest respect and admiration for the professional skills of airline pilots - but may I suggest that they are not always thoroughly informed about the financial situation of their company ?
Take, for instance, the Sabena fall.
A few pilots understood early (see the book of O. Wilmart : "De Sabena à Air France").
But the great majority of Sabena pilots did nos see what was coming, until much too late...

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 24 Feb 2006, 19:16

LX-LGX wrote:Title from this topic is : what happens at SNBA?

So : what happened to SN3667 and SN2555 today? Both flights are announced as BRU-BRU, thus return to the gate after push back.

24/02 10:23 Brussels-Brussels SN3667 11:03

24/02 15:51 Brussels-Brussels SN2555

This topic is started by member Boeing767Copilot. He was saying that some members of the management team left or are leaving the company. This has nothing to do with some technical issues that we have every day.

@ Burner737

What's wrong with you? Every post of you is so pessimistic. I have never read something of you that is possitive.
It's really sad that you have to life like that.

AFApresident · Post by **AFApresident** » 24 Feb 2006, 20:55

jan_olieslagers wrote:@ SFM: do not overrate me, I never claimed to be well-informed about what happens inside any airline. I said no more and no less than "please mind your words and your manners"

@airazurxtror:
If you have reliable information to confirm the SNBA ship is sinking, or to justify comparing any person to a rat, please share that information. Otherwise, you had better keep silent.

The fact that both Rob Kuypers and Peter Davies left within days of each other should be a warning that something is heading the wrong way and that it won't get solved soon since their new CEO only has a 1 year contract (whom they only hired after a couple of months).

I love aviation and I love SN ... but they better get their act together!

burner737 · Post by **burner737** » 24 Feb 2006, 21:55

Atlantis wrote: @ Burner737

What's wrong with you? Every post of you is so pessimistic. I have never read something of you that is possitive.
It's really sad that you have to life like that.

I actually am quite happy

!!!
Sometimes aviation in Belgium is hard

People who really know me know i'm a fun guy ...

Regards Tim

Post by **Bruspotter** » 24 Feb 2006, 21:59

Hi

Well to tell you something. If there is someone quite pessimistic sometimes , it might be me. Although I DO believe that often it's just the way it goes I guess. Sometimes it's just your way of thinking , and to be honest , you can better expect worse and let it turn out better than opposite , it makes you even unhappier :d Or at least that's what I think sometimes , now I'm not telling that you have to live your life black and pessimistic and unhappy , but you have to watch for the unexpected.

But Idd I must confess , it is what burner737 says

Best regards: Yannick

SierraFoxtrotMike · Post by **SierraFoxtrotMike** » 24 Feb 2006, 23:04

airazurxtror wrote:
SierraFoxtrotMike wrote:Thanks for that comment jan_olieslagers ! For the first time there is somebody who knows what he is talking about ! Unfounded comments should be banned !!!!
I have the greatest respect and admiration for the professional skills of airline pilots - but may I suggest that they are not always thoroughly informed about the financial situation of their company ?
Take, for instance, the Sabena fall.
A few pilots understood early (see the book of O. Wilmart : "De Sabena à Air France").
But the great majority of Sabena pilots did nos see what was coming, until much too late...

Correct ! But there is a big difference between hope and despair. Optimism and pessimism. That will be my unique comment concering this subject.

jan_olieslagers wrote:@ SFM: do not overrate me, I never claimed to be well-informed about what happens inside any airline. I said no more and no less than "please mind your words and your manners"

I do not overrate you sir. But i like the way you spoke. It's so rare to find persons here who do not speculate and speak about things they do not even know a quarter of the real information. IF there is one.

Kind Regards

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 25 Feb 2006, 15:35

jan_olieslagers wrote:
@airazurxtror:
If you have reliable information to confirm the SNBA ship is sinking, or to justify comparing any person to a rat, please share that information. Otherwise, you had better keep silent.

I think the gentleman has misunderstood me. I don't want SNBA to sink, quite at the contrary, I wish there were two or three "SNBA" at BRU (and I was sorry to see the merger with Virgin Express).
From the customer's point of view, the more airlines that are competing at a given airport, the better. each of them will endeavour to offer the best choice of destinations, the best-timed flights, the best service and the lowest fares - allowing the passenger to find the best deal !