Jat to take off to New York and Toronto on May 15th 2006

Galemos3 · Post by **Galemos3** » 14 Dec 2005, 05:50

With the arrival of 2 B767-200 Jat’s general director has announced that flights to North America will start on May 15th 2006 for the first tiome in 16 years. He says Jat is determined to start these two routes and the government of Serbia & Montenegro is signing the final agreements with the US Civil Aviation Department. In the meantime Jat will also be leasing 2 small aircrafts, which will be used on flights to Romania, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Croatia a new planned route for 2006. Jat is currently negotiating with the US Category 1 listing, giving it every right to the airline to start services. $7 million US has been set aside for the interior of the B767 and route planning.

With it’s second B767 Jat will establish direct routes to Dubai. From June Jat should fly 2 times a week direct, Belgrade - Dubai (B767-200) and 2 times a week Belgrade – Kuwait – Dubai (B737-300/400)

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 14 Dec 2005, 10:50

finally, JAT is going back to JFK and YYZ!!!

From where is JAT getting their new planes (B762) from?

My theory is that ZAG, OTP and SOF will open, with a possiblity of DBV, SPU, BNX, BUD and Timisoara. JAT has some B733's, ATR72's and ERJ170's to use. i know that the 2 ERJ170's will be used on the VIE, SJJ and TGD services, which is being used by ATR72's, so that leaves some spare ATR72's. and now since JAT has discontinued flights to Thesalonika (3 x p/w), now even more ATR72's available. JAT also have spare B733's from discontinuing Cairo, Beirut, Damascus, so i can see some of these destinations going daily, if not all being served a couple times a week.

Galemos3 · Post by **Galemos3** » 14 Dec 2005, 11:19

It’s still not certain which airline are the B767's from or but it is official that Jat will take off the NY and Toronto on this date. I have also heard that id the routes are successful Chicago will also be planned. I'm interested to see the new interior first and foremost, $7mil - not bad

Iluv346 · Post by **Iluv346** » 14 Dec 2005, 13:23

My theory is that ZAG ..., with a possiblity of DBV, SPU....

We will not see JAT in ZAG,DBV or SPU until JAT pays cca.800000 € on behalf of airport costs,tax...

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 15 Dec 2005, 03:14

whats with the 800.000 Euros? JAT stoped flying to ZAG, DBV, SPU, Rijeka, Portoroz, Pula, Brac, Maribor etc when the country fell apart, and they were all domestic routes.

Iluv346 · Post by **Iluv346** » 16 Dec 2005, 06:12

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rares_dan · Post by **rares_dan** » 16 Dec 2005, 09:07

JAT_boy_BEG wrote: My theory is that ZAG, OTP and SOF will open, with a possiblity of DBV, SPU, BNX, BUD and Timisoara.[...]

Not sure about those possibiities. There wouldn't be so much people flying from DBV, SPU, BNX or TSR to JFK(via BEG). 15-20 people in a 70 seat ATR-72 is not so good. Also, from TSR, Alitalia has daily flights to Milan Malpensa from where are (also) daily flights to JFK. And I don't think that JAT will be able to offer better ticket rates than Alitalia.
BUD can be a better route but there are a lot of big airlines(British Airways, Lufthansa, Alitalia, KLM) that offers "via" flighst to JFK at good prices. Malev also had 1x weekly(Wendsday) direct flight to JFK.
SOF and OTP and maybe ZAG would be verry good routes. From Romania and Bulgaria British Airways and other big carriers fly at very high rates. JAT can esealy beat them.

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 17 Dec 2005, 00:31

SOF and OTP will most likely the ones to be opened.

The story with the ZAG flights is that i heard that both OU and JU were going to do the flights between ZAG and BEG. OU is supposed to be recieving the ATR72, so lets wait to see what will happen. But for the other Croatian destinations, yeah, i am sure DBV, SPU and Rijeka will open. I mean, they are popular with the tourists even from N.America, and from the former Jugoslavija.

with Timisoara, i wouldn't even bother with it as it's flight time is only like just over half an hour. Ohrid should open back, maybe they will for the summer, but Ohrid was served by Skyservice last summer, once a week, maybe JAT can compete.

BUD would probably open mentioned earlier, MA stopped serving JFK.
Now if i bring up KIV as a possible route.......

any one know how good the Tirana flights are doing? I remember when they first started they were 3xp/w, now they're 5xp/w.

hakan · Post by **hakan** » 17 Dec 2005, 00:43

All the best to JAT. We would like to see them more often in the sky. Good to see Balkan region is catching up again with increased number companies and destinations. All credits should go to companies regardless their country of origin!!

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 17 Dec 2005, 01:09

yeah, i hope JAT open more destinations too.
This year they have lost too many destinations.

The thing i want is the Australian flights to return.

Galemos4 · Post by **Galemos4** » 17 Dec 2005, 01:17

JAT_boy_BEG wrote:yeah, i hope JAT open more destinations too.
This year they have lost too many destinations.

The thing i want is the Australian flights to return.

I heard that they are doing very well since there are many businessmen on the flight. They even increased the frequency a few months ago.
Jat currently has 45 destinations with plans to expand.
Two out of five ERJ170’s will be delivered in January, Jat should start services to North America in May 2006, Jat should receive first Airbuses in 06/07. All to be delivered by 2008. Jat will resume flights to Ohrid, Hurghada, Beirut and Damascus in the summer of 06.
As for Australia... Too expensive. It may fly to Singapore or Bangkok like other European airliners and then coadshare with an airline to Australia.

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 17 Dec 2005, 01:40

4 A319's arrive in June 2006, and the other 4 in June 2007.

Well I don't like the idea of JAT flying to Dubai with their B762's. What a waste. How are they going to fill a B762 when they can't fill the B733's currently on the route? The B762's should fly out to SIN or BKK like said before. Maybe even KUL. PEK would be nice to see returned.

Well when the ERJ's arrive, there surely should be new destinations open. Can't wait. And with JAT revealing a new webiste as of January 1st 2006, i have to wait to see what happens. Also the JAT ME (middle East) website will be back on the same time as well as a new JAT Australia website. Not sure on the JAT Canada or the JAT London.

Galemos4 · Post by **Galemos4** » 17 Dec 2005, 08:31

JAT_boy_BEG wrote:4 A319's arrive in June 2006, and the other 4 in June 2007.

Well I don't like the idea of JAT flying to Dubai with their B762's. What a waste. How are they going to fill a B762 when they can't fill the B733's currently on the route? The B762's should fly out to SIN or BKK like said before. Maybe even KUL. PEK would be nice to see returned.

Well when the ERJ's arrive, there surely should be new destinations open. Can't wait. And with JAT revealing a new webiste as of January 1st 2006, i have to wait to see what happens. Also the JAT ME (middle East) website will be back on the same time as well as a new JAT Australia website. Not sure on the JAT Canada or the JAT London.

JAT’s new Australia web site will be online Febuary 1st. The B767 will fly direct to Dubai in the summer season only when the plane is full. While the B737 will return during the winter. Jat Canada will get a refreshed web site in March – 2 months before the departure of the first aircraft to Canada.Jat also has a new Scandinavia website http://www.jatscandinavia.se/

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 18 Dec 2005, 06:56

Not bad of a site the Jat Airways Scandinavia!

I wonder if the new JAT webiste will be like that of the new Aerodrom Beograd webiste.

Apparently it is supposed to have a online booking.

Oh, but still in the summer time, only 1 extra B733 was used to fly between DXB and BEG. That made 5 weekly fligts. So will JU use both the A319/B733 and B762 in the summer or just B762? Would be better if they flew out to South-east Asia instead. Can we see 2xp/w or 3xp/w to YYZ and JFK or will there be more frequencies. Didn't JAT at one stage fly daily to JFK?

Zaki-boy · Post by **Zaki-boy** » 18 Dec 2005, 10:18

Well yes,this is a great news that JAT will start JFK...
I wanted to travel to JFK(No matter the VISA now)and I could have not found a profitible route.They really want to rip you off for connected flights but if JAT will start direct flights that shouldn't be a problem since they are the low-cost airline on the Balkans.
And yes well YYZ too,it's actually great to see JAT coming to NA after such a long time.My emotions are mixed about Zagreb-isn't it a bit too soon?Well anyway I would like to see JAT take of the service of the Balkan airline again and establish perhaps a route Belgrade-Zagreb-New York with a B767 which I know is not at all profitible but yet...
And also one question to you JAT_boy_BEG (I am from Belgrade as well

).Will JAT start operating to Nis perhaps with a new Embraerjet or perhaps ATR?I mean I have no idea how much that flight would last but it's certanly 20-25 minutes?And Podgorica lasts 30 minutes.Why not?
Greetings

Aerocroatia · Post by **Aerocroatia** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:55

JAT_boy_BEG wrote:... The story with the ZAG flights is that i heard that both OU and JU were going to do the flights between ZAG and BEG. OU is supposed to be recieving the ATR72, so lets wait to see what will happen. But for the other Croatian destinations, yeah, i am sure DBV, SPU and Rijeka will open. I mean, they are popular with the tourists even from N.America, and from the former Jugoslavija...

Croatia Airlines will not get any ATR-72s. They have already given up their planes with these planes. I have and information from the company that in this stage Croatia Airlines is not able to inaugurate next year any flights to Belgrade. Maybe later, the earlier possibility could be at end of summer timetable. At least one A319 or A320 will be added to the fleet instead.

On the other side North American Airlines is on 99% expected to inaugurate direct flights between Zagreb and JFK in May 2006. Two times a week, B767-300.

Galemos4 · Post by **Galemos4** » 19 Dec 2005, 06:54

Zaki-boy wrote:Well yes,this is a great news that JAT will start JFK...
I wanted to travel to JFK(No matter the VISA now)and I could have not found a profitible route.They really want to rip you off for connected flights but if JAT will start direct flights that shouldn't be a problem since they are the low-cost airline on the Balkans.
And yes well YYZ too,it's actually great to see JAT coming to NA after such a long time.My emotions are mixed about Zagreb-isn't it a bit too soon?Well anyway I would like to see JAT take of the service of the Balkan airline again and establish perhaps a route Belgrade-Zagreb-New York with a B767 which I know is not at all profitible but yet...
And also one question to you JAT_boy_BEG (I am from Belgrade as well ).Will JAT start operating to Nis perhaps with a new Embraerjet or perhaps ATR?I mean I have no idea how much that flight would last but it's certanly 20-25 minutes?And Podgorica lasts 30 minutes.Why not?
Greetings

Jat alredy flies to Nis with a B737-300. It goes Nis – Zurch and soon Nis - London. SkyService flies Toronto - Belgrade

Zaki-boy · Post by **Zaki-boy** » 19 Dec 2005, 09:23

Galemos4 wrote:
Zaki-boy wrote:Well yes,this is a great news that JAT will start JFK...
I wanted to travel to JFK(No matter the VISA now)and I could have not found a profitible route.They really want to rip you off for connected flights but if JAT will start direct flights that shouldn't be a problem since they are the low-cost airline on the Balkans.
And yes well YYZ too,it's actually great to see JAT coming to NA after such a long time.My emotions are mixed about Zagreb-isn't it a bit too soon?Well anyway I would like to see JAT take of the service of the Balkan airline again and establish perhaps a route Belgrade-Zagreb-New York with a B767 which I know is not at all profitible but yet...
And also one question to you JAT_boy_BEG (I am from Belgrade as well ).Will JAT start operating to Nis perhaps with a new Embraerjet or perhaps ATR?I mean I have no idea how much that flight would last but it's certanly 20-25 minutes?And Podgorica lasts 30 minutes.Why not?
Greetings
Jat alredy flies to Nis with a B737-300. It goes Nis – Zurch and soon Nis - London. SkyService flies Toronto - Belgrade

I meant Belgrade-Nis?

Galemos4 · Post by **Galemos4** » 20 Dec 2005, 01:24

Zaki-boy wrote:
Galemos4 wrote:
Zaki-boy wrote:Well yes,this is a great news that JAT will start JFK...
I wanted to travel to JFK(No matter the VISA now)and I could have not found a profitible route.They really want to rip you off for connected flights but if JAT will start direct flights that shouldn't be a problem since they are the low-cost airline on the Balkans.
And yes well YYZ too,it's actually great to see JAT coming to NA after such a long time.My emotions are mixed about Zagreb-isn't it a bit too soon?Well anyway I would like to see JAT take of the service of the Balkan airline again and establish perhaps a route Belgrade-Zagreb-New York with a B767 which I know is not at all profitible but yet...
And also one question to you JAT_boy_BEG (I am from Belgrade as well ).Will JAT start operating to Nis perhaps with a new Embraerjet or perhaps ATR?I mean I have no idea how much that flight would last but it's certanly 20-25 minutes?And Podgorica lasts 30 minutes.Why not?
Greetings
Jat alredy flies to Nis with a B737-300. It goes Nis – Zurch and soon Nis - London. SkyService flies Toronto - Belgrade
I meant Belgrade-Nis?

Yes, Jat has flights Belgrade - Nis

JAT_boy_BEG · Post by **JAT_boy_BEG** » 21 Dec 2005, 05:36

Galemos4 wrote:
Zaki-boy wrote:
Galemos4 wrote: Jat alredy flies to Nis with a B737-300. It goes Nis – Zurch and soon Nis - London. SkyService flies Toronto - Belgrade
I meant Belgrade-Nis?
Yes, Jat has flights Belgrade - Nis

no, JAT did at one stage operate a B733 flight to Nis but a year later it was removed. They do some charter, but i think Air Pink and Prince Aviacija fly charters mainly between the two cities. The only JAT flight from Nis is to Zurich.

Oh by the way, JP Aerdrom Beograd has released an artists impression on the finished product of BEG. A massive cargo facility is being constructed now, and a third terminal is to be planned. and another runway will be built.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/ ... lan-ab.jpg

during the summer months, JAT will restart the Cairo, Hurghada, Beirut, Damascus and Monastir flights which is most likely to connect to the N/A flights. Bodrum, Antalya, Corfu, Santorini, Izmir, Keffalinia, and Zakinthos are the most definately remain open during the summer season. Maybe more will be opened.

BEG welcomes 2 new airlines to BEG. In January 2006, THY Turkish Airlines commence services between Istanbuls Ataturk Airport and Belgrade. Also in March 2006, TAROM will commence flights to Belgrade from Bucharest Airport. Talk is that Korean Air is interested in flying to BEG. JAT may come under great pressure from TAROM, as they have plans to restart flights to Beijing, Toronto and JFK in early 2006, with 2 A310's. TAROM joins Skyteam in 2006.

Not sure on the Skyservice flight. They only operate on tuesdays and go via Dublin, while JAT will offer a couple flights aweek between YYZ and BEG non-stop.......with PTVs in every seat!!!, new livery and a new interior. Skyservice will be under pressure in Ohrid, if they will continue next year, as JAT will connect to Ohrid from Beograd. New JAT livery looks like this.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/D ... veboje.jpg

but i want it to be like this:
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairl ... d=00004381

tell me what yous think,
pozdrav