Revolution in Aviation?

boeing797 · Post by **boeing797** » 26 Aug 2005, 13:30

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/ ... ing26.html

This seems like a great revolution in aviation. Some one out there is in big troubles

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regi · Post by **regi** » 26 Aug 2005, 15:21

This is not a real revolution, it is just a development. And it is not 100% correct to state that this front part is made in 1 piece of carbon fibre. You can see immediately that there are many undercuts, so they have used many metal moulds to apply the carbon fibre cloth in and bake it in the autoclaves. Undercuts mean that you cannot pull the part out tof the mould after solidifying.
But anyhow, it is a nice piece of manufacturing, no doubt about that.
Carbon fibre parts are used already for many years in military and civil aircrafts. The new thing here is the size. And the size of the part depends on the size of the autoclave, or oven.

Andries · Post by **Andries** » 26 Aug 2005, 16:25

Are you sure its a revolution ?

If I didn't know better, I would think it was the nose of a Caravelle ...

Looks like the Americans are going where Europe went a few decades ago ...

Greetz,

Andries

regi · Post by **regi** » 26 Aug 2005, 18:19

Andries,
it IS the nose of a Caravelle. The truth is that they made copies in their chinese subsidary.
Next will be a Concorde-made-by-Boeing, probably called Real Sonic Cruiser. Problem is that they cannot find anough plaster to copy a Concorde.

boeing797 · Post by **boeing797** » 27 Aug 2005, 03:33

regi wrote:Andries,
Next will be a Concorde-made-by-Boeing, probably called Real Sonic Cruiser. Problem is that they cannot find anough plaster to copy a Concorde.

Even in 21st they are not stupid enough to build a Concord

boeing797 · Post by **boeing797** » 27 Aug 2005, 03:37

Andries wrote:Are you sure its a revolution ?
Looks like the Americans are going where Europe went a few decades ago ...

Greetz,

Andries

Was the Caravell a piece of Euro scrap? Not in service for a few years weren't they? And how many Concord were in service? Marvel or scrap?

an-148 · Post by **an-148** » 27 Aug 2005, 09:38

The only reason why the Concorde has not become a commercial success is the refusal of US authorities to allow landing in US. When, after three long years, they finally accepted on on very few airports, it was because they were sure that the US companies would't buy them just because of these restrictions. Aircraft has been allowed when it was evident that the threat vanished!!!!!
History is repeating: a proposal for a new law has been submitted to Congress which would oblige to equip civil aircraft with theoretical capacity of more than 600 pax to be equipped with (very expensive) anti missile stuff, before FAA agreement: don't ask which is the ONLY airplane concerned.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 27 Aug 2005, 16:29

A slightly better picture, with better perspective.

Huge windows!

http://www.boeing.com/randy/images/lead ... ose_sm.jpg

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 27 Aug 2005, 17:49

Well done Boeing! But I have to agree it looks like Comet/Caravelle nose section.

Regards

Seb.

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 28 Aug 2005, 02:36

But no pilot will ever sit in this particular Section 41?? Is that a revolution?

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 28 Aug 2005, 16:44

Not a revolution at all. Merely a normal step 25 years after the 767.