AF ordered 5 B777-200LRF

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AF ordered 5 B777-200LRF

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AF is the launch customer for the proposed B777-200LRF. They finally ordered 5 with options on 3 more to replace the remaining B747-200F/SF.

On a side note, AF still expect their 5th and last B747-400ERF.

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Yees yes but they have a problem to use these 777 to ORY.

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One does not think enough of weighing the planes, here is the problem. Thus, the Platform of today tells us, Air France bought seven 777 - what does many "7" and should carry happiness to him according to Chinese astrology - to replace its 747 on the service road of Dom as from the next year. All that costs a salad bowl obviously but one has just realized apparently that the 777 are too heavy to land with Orly. And precisely, it is with Orly that they must land. No the chance... In fact, to be precise, they are less heavy than the 747 but they also have less wheels, with the result that each wheel carries more weight. And as they land on the wheels, in general, the business is of importance! While being posed on its wheels with him, 777 threat to trace in the track long and deep furrows in which the merry ploughman, whose Boris Vian at the beginning speaks about the Scum of the Days, will be able to plant very with leisure of corn, the buckwheat or the flowers of beautiful arrival according to the market of the day and preferences' of the housewife. I force the feature but it is the general idea: in a word as in hundred, that fears hairy for the tarmac. Then there is well the solution to reinforce it but that is expensive and then which will pay? Hein? Thus there is a concern... With the spirit of service which animates us, we would have well a solution to propose: it would be to put the passengers at the alcohol-free diet, to reduce. To even make land the small beast with vacuum. At the same time, when it is known that one 747 weighs about 400 tons, even if the 777 is a little weaker, once that one removed the 400 passengers which are vautrent inside at a rate of 80 kilos per pax (what is broad considering there are women and children in the heap), one painfully manages to eliminate 32 tons. The thickness of the feature, what. Not, which weighs really heavy, if one goes by there, it is all the remainder, around. The ideal, for any statement, it would be to find the means of making land the passengers... without the plane.

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Hmn :wink: And whos paying the bill KLM :smile:
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Gate-A1 wrote:Yees yes but they have a problem to use these 777 to ORY.
The problem lies with the 777-300, not the 777-200. The 777F is based on the -200, so it should not have any problems...

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Advisor wrote:Hmn :wink: And whos paying the bill KLM :smile:
Uhm?

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???
Not KLM, but ADP, which is the Orlay airport authority.
But as stated earlier, this new order does not have anything to do with this issue. The issue concerns the -300 which are forecasted to be deployed on Carabean and Indian Ocean routes. This order is for freighters...

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Moreover, those B777-200LRF will be based at CDG.

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on De finacial telegraaf ( dutch ) you can read that KLM will also ordered an additional 747 erf plane. Also KLM in combination with Martinair is intressed in the cargo 777.

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V-Bird wrote:on De finacial telegraaf ( dutch ) you can read that KLM will also ordered an additional 747 erf plane. Also KLM in combination with Martinair is intressed in the cargo 777.
Cool! I didn't know these 2 news! The 777 seems a logical choice to replace MD-11F.

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Well i don`t think they will reject the MD-11 cargo for active service. Martinair is very "happy" with there md-11 fleet. It also bought some ex swiss air md-11 and conferted it to a full freighter. Martinair also bought some MD-11 from KLM ( it means that, when klm reject there md-11`s, 3 of them wil conferted as an freighter an add to the Martinair fleet ). But however, some B777 freighters, in combination with the 747`s and md-11 would be nice!!!!! :D
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On a sidenote:

Martin Schröder, the founder of Martinair, has said during the KLM prsentation of their passenger B772, that if he would still be in charge of Martinair, he would like to order some B772 as a freighter. In his opinion this aircraft would have a very good payload and that combined with a superior range would make it an aircraft that really would suit Martinair's needs. But as he said, he doesn't calls the shots at Martinair anymore.
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The first B777F for AF are expected end of 2008 only. I've heard also that AF will convert 3 B747-400 pax into freighter (2007).

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What about A380F's for AFR ? Do they need such a beast or will they are
happy with the T7F's ?

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No A380F for AF nor KL. The B747-400ERFs are rather news and are doing a good job.

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The A380 has still a looooong life, so there might pop up some orders for
the freighter from AFR/KLM as well. Not the next years - for sure !

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V-Bird wrote:on De finacial telegraaf ( dutch ) you can read that KLM will also ordered an additional 747 erf plane. Also KLM in combination with Martinair is intressed in the cargo 777.
Hello V-bird, can you please identify the exact source (URL) of this news.

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