BRU Winter 2017-18: news, new routes, airlines

[crew1990]

SN flight to IAD was seasonal too. Will it be discontinued again this winter?

No it will not, but it comes back next summer again

[lumumba]

SN flight to IAD was seasonal too. Will it be discontinued again this winter?

No it will not, but it comes back next summer again

That's what meant!!!!!

[A330]

9W left Brussels for a reason. (Probably not because it was making a lot of money)
The reduction is seasonal, SU18 should be back to 5x weekly.

But if BOM stay 6X in SU18 and YYZ go back to 5X it will makes 2 extra rotation, does it mean an 11th A330 could be coming?

If BOM goes to 6x weekly, and YYZ returns to 5x weekly (as it is this summer?), there is 1 extra rotation next summer. For the winter there is probably capacity as IAD is summer only. Anyway, good news!
Was YYZ also 3x weekly in Winter 2016-2017?

[nordikcam]

9W left Brussels for a reason. (Probably not because it was making a lot of money)
The reduction is seasonal, SU18 should be back to 5x weekly.

But if BOM stay 6X in SU18 and YYZ go back to 5X it will makes 2 extra rotation, does it mean an 11th A330 could be coming?

If BOM goes to 6x weekly, and YYZ returns to 5x weekly (as it is this summer?), there is 1 extra rotation next summer. For the winter there is probably capacity as IAD is summer only. Anyway, good news!
Was YYZ also 3x weekly in Winter 2016-2017?

I guess it was 4 times a week !
But SN said it was better than expected in summer and worse than expected in winter ! Speaking about lf.

[luchtzak]

From 12 December 2017 Ethiopian Airlines flies daily to Brussels (via Vienna or Malpensa)

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ethiopi ... mber-2017/

[sn26567]

Hi all.
Concerning Hainan, I checked up their website and had a look to the offer on both PEK and SHA flights from/to BRU.

From next winter season, Hainan will fly daily from BRU to both PEK and SHA. Not yet two HU birds the same day at the same time this winter. From next summer season well on friday -2-4567 (PEK).

BRU - PEK : HU 492 : From 12:20 To 05:20+1 : Days -2-4-67 (flight time : 10 hours).
BRU - SHA : HU 7922 : From 11:30 To 05:30+1 : Days 1-3-5-- (flight time : 11 hours).
PEK - BRU : HU 491 : From 01:45 To 05:45 : Days -2-4-67 (flight time : 11 hours).
SHA - BRU : HU 7921 : From 01:25 To 06:30 : Days 1-3-5-- (flight time : 12 hours 05 minutes).

Hainan will start the Shanghai Pu Dong-Brussels route on 25 October with a 787-9, but as soon as 29 October it will revert to a 787-8.

[B737229]

Doha – Brussels eff 29OCT17 Previously scheduled 787-8 service to be replaced by:
QR193/194 A350-900XWB (4 weekly)
QR195/196 777-300ER (4 weekly)

Sourece : http://www.routesonline.com

[turbopilot]

Bad luck for me ... I am now on the 77W and the day before I would have flown wtih the A359

Christian

[HQ_BRU_Lover]

But good for BRU as it's an increase in capacity!

Seems the market is very strong for our Middle East carriers (Etihad, Emirates, Qatar)

[Bralo20]

Wonder which version of the 773 they'll send, they still have a 9 abreast eco version but they also have 2 10-abreast eco versions. Anyway, the A359 is a nice upgrade in comfort compared to the 788.

[rwandan-flyer]

Brussels Airlines will serve Entebbe daily, from December 2017. The sunday flight to Bujumbura will be now operated via Entebbe instead of via Kigali.

Kigali will be still served 6 times a week. The sunday flight is replaced by the friday flight. Interesting, now all RwandAir flights to Brussels will be operated the same day that Brussels Airlines. SN doesn't operate flight on Friday

brussels airlines in winter 2017/18 season plans to adjust service to East Africa, including Bujumbura, Entebbe and Kigali. With this service changes, the Star Alliance member will increase Entebbe service from 5 to 7 weekly.

All service operated by A330-200/-300 aircraft.

until 30NOV17
1 weekly Brussels – Bujumbura – Kigali – Brussels
5 weekly Brussels – Entebbe – Kigali – Brussels

eff 01DEC17
1 weekly Brussels – Bujumbura – Entebbe – Brussels
SN455 BRU1015 – 1940BJM2045 – 2255EBB2359 – 0635+1BRU 333 7

6 weekly Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels
SN467 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 135
SN465 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 246

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... e-changes/

[sn26567]

Thanjs for the update, rwabdan-flyer.

6 weekly Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels

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SN467 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 135
SN465 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 246

But why 2 different flight numbers for flights having exactly the same schedule?

[DannyVDB]

But what will be dropped then. Also Mumbai will get an additional flight (+1), the daily flight to East_Africa is also an increase as compared to the previous winter season (+2) ...
Or will SN get a new A330 for the winter season?
I thought that the new A330's start coming in (at least some of them) in Summer 2018. But that would only allow adding flights for Summer 2018 ...
Maybe one of the Air Berlin planes might be attributed to SN (if correct that they were already bought by LH, see airliners.net) - see also Thomas Cook topic ...
D

[convair]

But what will be dropped then. Also Mumbai will get an additional flight (+1), the daily flight to East_Africa is also an increase as compared to the previous winter season (+2) ...
Or will SN get a new A330 for the winter season?
I thought that the new A330's start coming in (at least some of them) in Summer 2018. But that would only allow adding flights for Summer 2018 ...
Maybe one of the Air Berlin planes might be attributed to SN (if correct that they were already bought by LH, see airliners.net) - see also Thomas Cook topic ...
D

Washington flight is discontinued during winter; and other flights might see a decrease in frequency, like Toronto (?), Accra (?), Kinshasa (?)..., since they will need to send their A330s to heavy maintenance like every winter I suppose.

[convair]

Thanjs for the update, rwabdan-flyer.

6 weekly Brussels – Kigali – Entebbe – Brussels

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SN467 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 135
SN465 BRU1015 – 1935KGL2045 – 2240EBB2355 – 0635+1BRU 332 246

But why 2 different flight numbers for flights having exactly the same schedule?

They already do that for some triangular flights that keep the same number for the 3 legs (469 and 471; 241 and 243). I suppose this is in order to avoid confusion in case there is a delay, when the flight is operated on successive days; otherwise you could have the same flight number for a delayed return and for the following outgoing flight.

[Homo Aeroportus]

Brussels Airlines will serve Entebbe daily, from December 2017. The sunday flight to Bujumbura will be now operated via Entebbe instead of via Kigali.

I was down there on Friday and heard the good news.
The reversed triangle means the SN crew will again overnight in Kampala instead of Kigali.
But probably not anymore at the Speke Resort

H.A.

[sn26567]

Following today's press conference of Brussels Airlines and Thomas Cook, here are the new SN destinations for next Winter:

From 28 October
Lanzarote Canary Islands
Fuerteventura Canary Islands
Sal Cape Verde
Hurghada Egypt
Marsa Alam Egypt
Agadir Morocco
Enfidha Tunisia
Djerba Tunisia
Funchal Madeira, Portugal

From February 2018
Almeria Spain
Palma de Mallorca Balearic Islands


Brussels Airlines winter destinations with increased frequencies

Tenerife Canary Islands From 2 to 7 times weekly
Gran Canaria Canary Islands From 2 to 4 times weekly

[SabenaForever]

Hi all.
Concerning Hainan, I checked up their website and had a look to the offer on both PEK and SHA flights from/to BRU.

From next winter season, Hainan will fly daily from BRU to both PEK and SHA. Not yet two HU birds the same day at the same time this winter. From next summer season well on friday -2-4567 (PEK).

BRU - PEK : HU 492 : From 12:20 To 05:20+1 : Days -2-4-67 (flight time : 10 hours).
BRU - SHA : HU 7922 : From 11:30 To 05:30+1 : Days 1-3-5-- (flight time : 11 hours).
PEK - BRU : HU 491 : From 01:45 To 05:45 : Days -2-4-67 (flight time : 11 hours).
SHA - BRU : HU 7921 : From 01:25 To 06:30 : Days 1-3-5-- (flight time : 12 hours 05 minutes).

Hainan will start the Shanghai Pu Dong-Brussels route on 25 October with a 787-9, but as soon as 29 October it will revert to a 787-8.

The Hainan website is still displaying the 787-9 after 29 October...

[SabenaForever]

Etihad will schedule the A330-300 from 11 december till 17 march on mondays and saturdays to BRU.

Source: Etihad.com

[SabenaForever]

Air France in winter 2017/18 season is adding new one-time charter program between Belgium and Cuba, with Airbus A340-300 scheduled on Paris CDG – Brussels – Havana route. This one-time flight is scheduled in December 2017, with following schedule.

AF4012 CDG1330 – 1430BRU1520 – 2125HAV 343 09DEC17
AF4013 HAV2325 – 1555+1BRU1710+1 – 1810+1CDG 343 16DEC17

Source: airlineroute