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sn26567 wrote:When Ryanair pretends in its press release that it provides 1,600 on-site jobs at Brussels airport and 4,900 on-site jobs at Charleroi airport, I am very much in doubt; there are hardly 1,000 workers on-site at Charleroi.
In the above mentioned press release :
*ACI research confirms up to 1,000 ‘on-site’ jobs are sustained at international airports for every 1m passengers

ACI : Airports Council International
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Stij wrote:Sean,

Nope, is the normal fare of today, just checked it on SN's website!
The comparison is wrong.

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Stij
This is all getting slightly ridiculous. All fare quotes are for October 13 as mentioned in my first post and the "waive" of 149 € is a commercial gesture towards me. Passenger paid 16,99 and was abble to move row one. So, the difference between VY/FR and SN is 386 € . I guess the passenger prefers to have a fabulous lunch for 2 at the Osteria di Santa Marina with that money
Incidentely the quotes on Ryanair and Vueling include my commission. The SN quote does not.

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I know, I read that too, but where are all those "on-site" workers hidden? Disguised as passengers?

On another topic, tomorrow at 11:30 MOL will hold a press conference in Cologne.
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That 1,000 on-site jobs for 1m passengers, is really a very basic and high number. Especially for airlines who don't have their head-office or at least a local (ticket) office and many other supporting services which LCC bases often lack, that 1,000 number is too high.

Remember ACI is like the IATA for airports, they use that number to make airport development look even better for the local economy, trying to persuade people who are against airport development in the name of job creation.

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For every example where A is cheaper, you will find a counter example where B is cheaper: it's a sign the pricing is extremely competitive these days.

Other than that: combining airlines and thus making up your own schedules to the point you even combine different airports for outbound and return flights, yes that can be done of course, but obviously it's no longer a direct comparison any longer than.

Regardles all that, I don't think ad hoc commercial gestures are to be taken into account (and definitely not simply omitted from the explanation): I just looked it up and I happen to be able to book a day return flight on that OCT 13 to Venice (what's so particular about that date anyway?) for much less than what you see on your screen thanks to our corporate contract at Brussels Airlines, yet does that give me the right to mention that price setting in a routine price quote discussion like this?

Back to the other remark: ACI essentially is a lobbying group it seems, so I'd take their numbers with a large pinch of salt. It's a bit like when you see turn out numbers of a mass demonstration being estimated by the organisation and compare them to those of the police. ;)

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Oh god ... not the good old on-site-jobs-ACI-is-bullsh*tting discussion again :roll

You guys only find things credible if they fit in your propaganda

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sn26567 wrote:On another topic, tomorrow at 11:30 MOL will hold a press conference in Cologne.
I don't know what MOL will tell in Cologne tomorrow, because Kenny Jacobs was there today, and Ryanair issued a press release (German only) to disclose the summer 2015 schedule out of CGN with 7 new destinations for a total of 11 (and 800 on-site jobs :twisted: )

RYANAIR PRÄSENTIERT DEN KÖLNER SOMMERFLUGPLAN 2015

MIT SIEBEN NEUEN STRECKEN NACH ALICANTE, BARCELONA, DUBLIN, LONDON, MADRID, RIGA & ROM FÜR BIS ZU 500.000 NEUE KUNDEN

Ryanair, Europas beliebteste Low-Cost Airline, hat heute in Köln seinen Sommerflugplan für 2015 bekannt gegeben. Neben zusätzlichen Flügen nach/von Palma können rund 800.000 Passagiere auch nach Alicante, Barcelona, Dublin, London, Madrid, Riga und Rom fliegen. Somit sichert Ryanair über 800 Arbeitsplätze am Kölner Flughafen.

Folgendes beinhaltet der Ryanair Sommerflugplan 2015:

- Sieben neue Flugstrecken: Alicante, Barcelona, Dublin, London, Madrid, Riga & Rom
- Somit insgesamt 11 Flugstrecken ab Köln
- Mehr Flüge ab/von Palma
- Wöchentlich insgesamt 67 Rückflüge (+70%)
- Über 500.000 neue Passagiere (gut 800.000 pro Jahr)
- 800 gesicherte Arbeitsplätze in Köln pro Jahr

Alle deutschen Passagiere können nun 11 verschiedenen Reiseziele ab Köln wählen und dabei natürlich von den Vorteilen der Sitzplatzreservierungen, einem zweitem kostenlosem Handgepäck, der neuen Webseite, einer neuen App mit der Möglichkeit von mobilen Bordkarten und dem neuen Ryanair Family Extra sowie dem Business Plus Paket Gebrauch machen.

Ryanair wird auch in Zukunft Köln mit den wichtigsten Geschäftszentren in Europa verbinden. Mit den Destinationen Barcelona (1x täglich), London (2x täglich), Madrid (1x täglich) und Rom (1x täglich), bietet Ryanair seinen Geschäftsreisenden somit die größte Auswahl an Reisezielen für die günstigsten Preise. Europas beliebteste Low-Cost Airline feiert den Start seines Kölner Sommerflugplans 2015 und sieben neuen Strecken mit einer ganz besonderen Aktion: 100.000 Sitzplätze für Flüge im Oktober, November und Dezember sind für das gesamte Kölner Flugnetz zum Preis von nur 19,99 Euro verfügbar. Dieses Angebot kann bis Donnerstag Mitternacht des 25. Septembers gebucht werden.

Kenny Jacobs, Chief Marketing Officer von Ryanair:

Ryanair freut sich den Kölner Sommerflugplan 2015 bekannt zu geben, der sieben neue Flugstrecken nach Alicante, Barcelona, Dublin, London, Madrid, Riga und Rom sowie mehr Verbindungen nach und von Palma beinhaltet. Mit nun 11 aufregenden neuen Sommerstrecken wird Ryanair bis zu 500.000 neue Passagiere – das heißt 800.000 Passagiere im gesamten Jahr – befördern können.

Deutsche Kunden wählen Ryanair bereits jetzt aufgrund unserer günstigen Preise, dem marktführenden Kundenservice und unserer großartigen Streckenverbindungen. Ab sofort können alle Passagiere ihre Sommerflüge für 2015 noch früher auf unserer Webseite und über unsere neue App buchen. Zudem können sie ein zweites kostenloses Handgepäck mit sich führen, Sitzplatzreservierungen vornehmen oder Gebrauch von unseren Family Extra Paket machen und ihre mobilen Endgeräte während des gesamten Fluges anlassen. Ryanair wird auch in Zukunft mehr bieten als nur günstige Flüge.

Um den Start des Kölner Sommerflugplans 2015 und sieben neuer Strecken zu feiern, bieten wir unseren Kunden die Möglichkeit bis Donnerstag Mitternacht des 25. Septembers alle Flüge ab Köln im Oktober, November und Dezember für nur 19,99 Euro zu buchen. Wir erwarten, dass diese vergünstigten Flüge besonders schnell vergriffen sein werden und raten allen Interessierten diese so schnell wie möglich auf www.ryanair.com zu buchen.


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This here topic is "Ryanair in 2014", and it is much too often polluted with mentions of other airlines (I agree with Inquirer) which have no relation to the main subject, particularly a Belgian airline that does not play in the same category, by far (I may be culprit of same, but only on reaction, like the price at Colruyt's !).
Ryanair is Ryanair is Ryanair - unique. It breeds spite, resentment, jealousy amongst the competition, it's only normal, but tiring and tedious when it goes on forever like here.
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The Ryanair press conference yesterday was more interesting than some, here, tried to make us believe :

http://www.lalibre.be/economie/actualit ... e61041ceae

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En 2015, la compagnie Ryanair estime qu’elle pourra atteindre 6,5 millions de passagers depuis les aéroports belges (dont 4,9 millions depuis Charleroi), soit une hausse de 20 % par rapport à cette année. D'après Kenny Jacobs, le directeur Marketing de Ryanair, Ryanair aurait ainsi désormais 25 % des parts de marché en Belgique et se positionnerait devant Brussels Airlines (NdlR : qui devrait dépasser les six millions de passagers cette année) et Jetairfly. "
On peut atteindre assez rapidement 35, voire 40 % de part de marché en Belgique, estime Kenny Jacobs.
En tout, la compagnie va désormais proposer 88 destinations depuis la Belgique. "Nos livraisons d’avions ne suivent pas la demande de nos passagers", s’enthousiasme le directeur irlandais.

Kenny Jacobs prévoit ainsi de la casse chez ses adversaires. D’après lui, les faillites de ses concurrents devraient arriver encore plus rapidement à Zaventem où une "suroffre" va rapidement apparaître sur de nombreuses lignes. "Certaines compagnies vont disparaître ou fusionner. La seule question est de savoir quand cela va se produire. On va beaucoup grandir l’année prochaine et cela va devenir très compliqué pour certains de nos concurrents de suivre un tel degré de compétition. Tout le monde ne survivra pas. Nous, on sait qu’on s’en sortira bien."

Le directeur se montre ainsi peu impressionné par la baisse des prix de Brussels Airlines. "Brussels Airlines essaie de faire du low cost, mais ils doivent descendre jusqu’à 19,99 euros par trajet s’ils veulent vraiment nous concurrencer."
D’après M. Jacobs, une nouvelle "mini-guerre" s’annonce entre les compagnies sur le segment des trajets business. "Les low cost comme nous ou Easyjet proposent désormais de très belles offres pour les hommes d’affaires. Ce qui les intéresse, c’est de voyager bon marché, d’avoir une certaine flexibilité, plus de bagages… et pas qu’on leur offre gratuitement des cacahuètes ou du Prosecco."


In 2015, Ryanair believes it will reach 6.5 million passengers for the Belgian airports (including 4.9 million from Charleroi), up 20% from this year. According to Kenny Jacobs, Marketing Director of Ryanair, Ryanair now has a 25% market share in Belgium and would position before Brussels Airlines (Editor's note: expected to exceed six million passengers this year) and Jetairfly. "
We can reach relatively quickly 35 or even 40% market share in Belgium, says Kenny Jacobs.
In all, the company will now offer 88 destinations from Belgium. "Our aircraft deliveries do not follow the demand of our passengers," enthuses the Irish manager.

Kenny Jacobs foresees some damages among his opponents. According to him, the bankruptcy of its competitors should arrive even faster in Zaventem where an "oversupply" will soon appear on many lines. "Some companies will disappear or merge. The only question is when it will happen. We will grow much next year and it will become very difficult for some of our competitors to follow this level of competition. Everybody will not survive. As for us, we know we will come out well. "

The director is unimpressed by the lowered prices of Brussels Airlines. "Brussels Airlines is trying to make low cost, but they have to go down to 19.99 euros each way if they really want to compete with us."
According to Jacobs, a new "mini-war" between companies is coming, in the segment of business trips. "The low cost like Easyjet and us now offer some great deals for businessmen. What interests them is to travel cheap, to have some flexibility, more luggage - not free peanuts or Prosecco. "
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sn26567 wrote:On another topic, tomorrow at 11:30 MOL will hold a press conference in Cologne.
I'm following the press conference by webcast: it's about an agreement with Amadeus.

Ryanair will sell a wide range of fares, in particular business fares, through Amadeus without surcharge. Amadeus works already for 70 LCCs.

MOL said once he would never use GDSs, but now he is proud to cooperate with Amadeus because Ryanair is changing and wants to be appealing to business travellers (27% of Ryanair pax travel on business). The business package at €69.99 sold through GDS is tailored for businessmen: free 20 kg baggage, free change of flight, better seat, printing of boarding pass at the airport, etc.

In answer to a question, MOL is happy about the strike at AF: a great opportunity for Ryanair. He considers Transavia as a high-cost airline that will not expand because of the strike.
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sn26567 wrote:
sn26567 wrote:On another topic, tomorrow at 11:30 MOL will hold a press conference in Cologne.
I'm following the press conference by webcast: it's about an agreement with Amadeus.

Ryanair will sell a wide range of fares, in particular business fares, through Amadeus without surcharge. Amadeus works already for 70 LCCs.

MOL said once he would never use GDSs, but now he is proud to cooperate with Amadeus because Ryanair is changing and wants to be appealing to business travellers.

24/09/2014.
Cologne, Germany, 24 September 2014: Ryanair and Amadeus today announce a breakthrough new agreement that will bring a wide range of the carrier’s fares and full ancillary services content to Amadeus subscribers for the first time in over a decade, via Amadeus’ innovative light ticketing technology. The airline’s ancillary services content will also be made available. The agreement also means that Ryanair‘s new Business plus fares will be made available to Amadeus subscribers, offering business and corporate travellers a tailored package, including flexible ticket changes, a 20kg baggage allowance, fast-track at airports, priority boarding and premium seating.

Under the terms of the agreement Amadeus subscribers will not be subject to any surcharge when booking Ryanair and the fares displayed via Amadeus will have parity with Ryanair’s other distribution channels, including its website.

The agreement marks a significant milestone for Ryanair in its journey to appeal to a wider cross-section of travellers. Michael O’Leary, CEO Ryanair commented: “Ryanair is pleased to partner with Amadeus whose technology represents a significant opportunity for us to reach a wider range of business and corporate customers. With more than 27% of our customers already travelling on business, we are continuing to improve Europe’s best business service, with the lowest fares, most on-time flights and our tailored Business Plus service. For business travellers, corporations and TMCs, this agreement will mean greater access to our low fares and Europe’s largest route network.”

Holger Taubmann, SVP Distribution, Amadeus added: “Ryanair is one of the world’s most successful low fare airlines so we are delighted the airline has seen the value of working with Amadeus to increase its reach, yield and merchandising capabilities. Our technology will enable travel agencies to book Ryanair flights easily and seamlessly. For our subscriber partners, this agreement underlines our commitment to continued innovation in order to offer the widest possible range of airline content.”

The use of Amadeus’ revolutionary technology, designed specifically for low fare airlines, provides simplicity for both Ryanair and Amadeus travel agency partners. With a completely ticketless approach for the airline, dynamic fares and ancillary content are provided via an XML link to Amadeus. Amadeus subscribers’ experience of booking Ryanair flights and ancillary services will be exactly the same as booking any other airline through the Amadeus system with the complete integration of traditional shopping, booking and back-office processes combined with real-time dynamic fares and services.

Today over 70 low fare airlines have chosen Amadeus as their distribution partner and low fare airline bookings via the Amadeus system increased by 21% during 2013. Since its introduction in 2007, Amadeus’ XML link has enabled low fare airlines to benefit from the reach and yield provided by travel agency distribution without the complexity associated with traditional ticketing processes for airlines. Amadeus’ Light Ticketing enhancements were first deployed by a low cost airline in 2013, allowing travel agents to use standard pricing workflows whilst being able to access the airline’s content from the standard neutral availability flow, modify PNRs and finalise the booking process with the creation of ticket numbers – just as they do when booking traditional flag carriers.

For more information visit www.amadeus.com/global

http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1 ... sRelease_C

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Speaking at a press conference in Germany, where he unveiled the airline’s plans to partner with GDS firm Amadeus, O’Leary said the problems legacy carriers are having at rolling-out low-cost subsidiaries can only be a benefit to Ryanair.

Air France pilots are striking after the airline announced it is aiming to transfer most of its short and medium-haul services to Transavia – a move unions claim will affect working and pay conditions.
“The strike has been a wonderful bonus for low-cost airlines,” said O’Leary. “I particularly welcomed [Air France CEO] Alexandre De Juniac’s solution last week, in typical French fashion, that they would concede and cave into the unions and decide not to expand [low-cost airline] Transavia until the New Year.
“We will then probably see that ‘no growth’ period extended for another year. With competitors like that it’s not hard to see why Ryanair is growing so quickly across Europe.”

Speaking in Cologne, O’Leary announced plans to grow its business in Germany, where it has previously failed to gain high passenger volume due to competitors such as Lufthansa and Air Berlin.
“One of the reasons we’re expanding so quickly in Germany is because Air Berlin is continuing to cut back on short-haul European destinations and focus more on Gulf routes. There is also Lufthansa that has some bizarre plan about establishing a new low-fare airline. Unfortunately [Lufthansa] started with a high-fare airline called Germanwings and they’ll need to do a lot more than call it that and paint it yellow to make it a low-cost carrier.

“The problem for legacy carriers is the more they are dealing with legacy issues, such as unions who don’t see the way forward, the harder it will be to set up a subsidiary and call it a low-cost airline. This will only help us grow in Europe," O'Leary added.

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Ryanair has said it is open to code-sharing – or providing flights for national carriers – claiming it is inevitable that the likes of British Airways will eventually rely on low-cost rivals to operate short-haul connections.

O’Leary said: “I am the person who for 10 years said over my dead body will we go back on GDSs. So I have to start by apologising for yet another thing I’ve got wrong at Ryanair over the last 10 years. It’s a sign of the change and evolution that’s going on. We expect to appeal to more and more of the bigger businesses and corporates.”

Ryanair said the deal would pave the way for further expansion, particularly in Germany where the airline is opening a base at Cologne airport. O’Leary said the company would overtake Air Berlin to become the country’s second-largest carrier by 2020, and in 10 years it would overtake Lufthansa.

O’Leary said he anticipated that shorthaul would be subcontracted by Lufthansa and British Airways. “I could see a future where we are doing contract flying. The high fare carrier would simply want access to our seats.” He added that an imminent code-share was “unlikely but something we wouldn’t rule out … so long as it didn’t compromise cost, turnaround or punctuality”.

The threat to long-haul revenues from Gulf carriers meant Europe’s legacy airlines would need to focus resources and further stem short-haul losses, O’Leary said. “If someone was really intelligent, though that probably disqualifies anyone managing a European airline, they would say we could deal with our short-haul by engaging in talks with, or partnerships with, Ryanair.”

He said Ryanair would not start flying to the three major, congested hubs – Heathrow, Charles de Gaulle or Frankfurt – but said easyJet could eventually feed British Airways, and Ryanair could feed Lufthansa or Air France elsewhere. “It’s an inevitability over the medium term,” he said.

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http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... ht-sharing


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http://www.hartvannederland.nl/algemeen ... r-ryanair/

Flight report in “Hart Van Nederland”:

Last Sunday (21 September 2014), Ryanair flight from Murcia to Eindhoven.
Flight was heavily delayed, but finally took off around 22h.
Shortly before landing, announcement: “we will not land in Eindhoven, but in Köln / Cologne”.
No further info why. Seems there’s a night curfew at EIN at 24h00.
Before deboarding, passengers were advised that they would be bussed from Köln to Eindhoven Airport.
No busses.
No assistance from Ryanair.
Someone from the airport apparently advised the waiting passengers that Ryanair asks them to take a train to their end destination, with costs reimbursed by Ryanair afterwards.
No trains at Köln / Cologne airport anymore at that nightly hour.
Some passengers took a taxi back home.
Other passengers like mrs Maud Berg, a pregnant Dutch lady traveling with a 3 year old child, phoned her family and asked them to come to Köln to pick them up.

Maud Berg said to Hart Van Nederland: Ryanair "...sincerely apologized..." but offered no compensation or indemnity.

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/algemeen ... r-ryanair/

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Ryanair held its 2014 AGM at its new Dublin offices in Swords today (25 Sep), during which the airline briefed shareholders on the continuing success of its improving customer experience, and the strong early uptake of its new Business Plus service.

Ryanair plans to carry 87 million passengers in this fiscal year (ending March 31), better than its previous forecast of 86 million, and record net profits close to 650 million euros ($825 million), the top of its previously guided range (620-650).

"However, the full year profit outturn continues to be heavily dependent on H2 yields over which we have very little visibility at present. We will give an update on Q3 yield performance at our half year results announcement in early November.”

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/ ... ?market=en
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Some factual news about the Annual Meeting of Ryanair, not found in the official press release:

O’Leary’s deputy, Howard Millar, said management had been “asleep at the wheel” while rival easyJet had responded more quickly to customers’ changing demands.

Now, that quote really made my day, as I got flamed for daring to suggest exactly that only last summer, when the writing was long on the wall Ryanair had been overtaken by other low cost carriers which seem to have sensed the pulse of the market much better.

Despite this managerial failure, the CEO earned 35% more than the previous year, being €1,75M, according to the airlines' pay report, something many ordinary shareholders didn't appreciate at all:
Almost a third of Ryanair’s shareholders rebelled against the budget airline’s pay report after its chief executive, Michael O’Leary, earned more despite the company suffering its first profit fall for five years.

more on this: http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... pay-report

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The European Commission confirmed that the low-cost carrier’s agreements at Brussels Charleroi, Frankfurt Hahn, Alghero and Stockholm Vasteras airports comply with the ‘market economy investor principle’ and do not infringe EU state aid rules.

However, the commission suggested that an agreement at Zweibrücken airport in Germany did not comply with state aid rules.
Ryanair withdrew services from the airport in 2009 having carried just 50,000 passengers.

The Charleroi finding affirms an EU court ruling in December 2008 and brings to an end a long-running case which the commission first considered in 1999, the airline said.

“Today’s rulings are consistent with the EU Commission’s previous confirmation that Ryanair’s airport agreements with Aarhus, Bratislava, Marseille, Niederrhein, Berlin Schönefeld and Tampere airports also comply with EU state aid rules.”

Ryanair legal director Juliusz Komorek said: “Today’s decisions confirm that Ryanair’s airport agreements at Charleroi, Hahn, Alghero and Vasteras airports comply with the market economy investor principle and involve no state aid.

“This follows seven earlier positive decisions at Aarhus, Bratislava, Charleroi in 2008, Marseille, Niederrhein, Berlin Schönefeld and Tampere airports.

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CRL however will have to pay back 6 million Euro and Belgium is asked to ensure that in the future the airport operator pays a fair concession fee to the Walloon Government to use the airport commercially (that hasn't been the case in the past and though part of that is contributed to the development of the Walloon region, it also distorts competition due to the proximity of BRU and therefore 6 million has to be paid back and a fair concession fee up to market standards should be paid in the future).

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_ST ... ?locale=en

Note to moderators: if this fits better/only fits in the CRL topic, please move it. I added it here because here there is already something about the EU decision published today and FR is the dominant user of CRL, having the highest benefit from the low concession fees paid by the airport operator.

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I guess because it's linked to the provious post, it's OK (André, correct me if I'm wrong).

If I understand it well, BSCA has a problem: not FR benefitted from unfair subsidies, but BSCA did and has to pay it back.

Two questions:

Where will the 6 million come from?
when in the future these subsidies will be gone, will airport fees go up?

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No doubt FR benefited from it in the way of lower airport charges which are made possible thanks to the low concession fee that has to be paid to the Walloon Government, but FR cannot be held responsible for that, only for things they receive directly from either the airport or the government (part of the whole smart structure FR, LCC airports and regions use to develop operations in a 'legal' way). But in case of CRL and some other secondary airports it distorts competiton due to the proximity of BRU (in this case) which doesn't get the same benefits.

Either the airport charges will increase a bit in the future if CRL has to pay more, or either they find other ways to increase their revenue (with non-aeronautical revenue) and keep the low charges.

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