TUI Airline in 2024

[lumumba]

Several sources expect TUIfly to stop its entire flight operation in ANR until October.
Curious if this is correct.

Confirmed in state media: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2024/07/29 ... entem-tot/
It is however not entirely correct to state that the runway at EBAW/ANR is too short for B737s: SABENA operated the type on an ANR-LHR service. It was a near thing, though, at one time I had a couple of beers with the poor chap who had to do the weight&balance calculations and they gave him a hard time. They could never fly with a full passenger load.

So that, while operating a B737 is not technically impossible, it may well be economically unfeasible for an operator like TUI, whose tight business model must depend on good occupation. Or so I imagine.

Besides, there may be differences between the various versions of B737, the type SABENA operated must have been smaller and thus lighter than those of TUI.

I remember those flights but it was with 737-200 making much nose.

[jan_olieslagers]

making much nose.

... and a bit of ears, too

[Homo Aeroportus]

making much nose.

... and a bit of ears, too

Medical or not, you still have a sharp eye
Good to see you back jan_o

H.A.

[Lux_avi]

Several sources expect TUIfly to stop its entire flight operation in ANR until October.
Curious if this is correct.

Confirmed in state media: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2024/07/29 ... entem-tot/
It is however not entirely correct to state that the runway at EBAW/ANR is too short for B737s: SABENA operated the type on an ANR-LHR service. It was a near thing, though, at one time I had a couple of beers with the poor chap who had to do the weight&balance calculations and they gave him a hard time. They could never fly with a full passenger load.

So that, while operating a B737 is not technically impossible, it may well be economically unfeasible for an operator like TUI, whose tight business model must depend on good occupation. Or so I imagine.

Besides, there may be differences between the various versions of B737, the type SABENA operated must have been smaller and thus lighter than those of TUI.

737's cannot take over in this case and that's all the public needs to know.
The E2's are already close to the limits in some situations.

And while the 732 or 737 classics were lighter, the NG's and MAXes have much better take-off performance. Landing is another story.

[fcw]

I remember those flights but it was with 737-200 making much noise.

And a Top Gun style tower fly-by when the 737 returned empty to BRU after the early LHR.

[jan_olieslagers]

[lumumba]

I remember those flights but it was with 737-200 making much noise.

And a Top Gun style tower fly-by when the 737 returned empty to BRU after the early LHR.

I missed that unfortunately

[jan_olieslagers]

I vaguely remember a story of a SABENA captain who flew that positioning EBAW-EBBR as his very last flight before retirement. The take-off must have been especially spctacular...

[Boeing767copilot]

According to Aviation Week:

Oil Consumption Issue Grounds TUI’s Fleet Of Pratt-Powered E2s.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... owered-e2s

[DIBO]

From what I've been told by a maintenance worker at TUI: An oil leak from engine #2's rear bearing.

The reported oil consumption and a leaking oil bearing seems to match.

[longwings]

So that, while operating a B737 is not technically impossible, it may well be economically unfeasible for an operator like TUI, whose tight business model must depend on good occupation.

You are correct that newer models are heavier, but engines are comparatively even more powerful, resulting in higher take-off weight for each generation. Nevertheless, operating out of ANR is still a question of trade-offs. The runway is long enough to let a 737-700 or -800 take off at about 75% MTOW. For context, OEW is about 50% of MTOW. So it's a matter of how you allocate the weight between passengers and fuel.

They could hypothetically load the plane up full of passengers and make a quick hop to BRU to refuel, but it would probably be cheaper to give the passengers a discount for driving to BRU instead.

[Atlantis]

Precaution landing of a TUI at BRU. Passengers evacuated on the runway via the slides.

More later

[Passenger]

Precaution landing of a TUI at BRU. Passengers evacuated on the runway via the slides.

Homepage article:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/tui- ... um-flight/

[Passenger]

TB-3581 Palermo-Brussels, scheduled departure PMO on Friday 10h50, operated by D-ANNE (Leav Aviation A320-200), is AOG in PMO. Technical issue, TUI told HLN.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-anne

OO-TUK (B737-8000) wil position from Eindhoven to Palermo at 10h40, flight/callsign JAF962P.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-tuk

[Passenger]

TB-3581 Palermo-Brussels, scheduled departure PMO on Friday 10h50, operated by D-ANNE (Leav Aviation A320-200), is AOG in PMO. Technical issue, TUI told HLN.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-anne

OO-TUK (B737-8000) wil position from Eindhoven to Palermo at 10h40, flight/callsign JAF962P.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-tuk

Message for the stranded passengers: your replacement aircraft will land in Palermo at 13h30:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... k#36910363

[sn26567]

TB-3581 Palermo-Brussels, scheduled departure PMO on Friday 10h50, operated by D-ANNE (Leav Aviation A320-200), is AOG in PMO. Technical issue, TUI told HLN.

This flight number is doomed: It's the one where passengers were blocked for two days in Naples and Palermo. It's also the flight number where I had a 6-hr delay and a change of plane on departure from Brussels one month earlier.

[Matt]

What is going on with the Embraer fleet? Are all 3 grounded now or is OO-ETA still flying?

asking because I'll fly to Murcia soon and want to know which aircraft to expect

[flywim]

What is going on with the Embraer fleet? Are all 3 grounded now or is OO-ETA still flying?

asking because I'll fly to Murcia soon and want to know which aircraft to expect

So far I only see OO-ETA performing flights from Brussels Airport.
I have a flight on 2nd of November to LPA out of ANR and last week got a message that we have been rebooked out of BRU to LPA.
Seems the troubles are not over yet

[DIBO]

OO-ETC's first (test)flight in six months https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... c#3758d1aa, ready for a normal schedule starting tomorrow.
OO-ETA which was very busy the past couple of months, seems to be "grounded" for over a week now, let's hope this was planned.

[KriVa]

OO-ETA is parked close to the satellite, with at least engine 2 missing. Probably a continuation of the P&W misery.