VLM / Embraer or 319

Post by **sn26567** » 06 Nov 2003, 09:33

Lars wrote:I really like the VLM-Airbus!! (without Belgian flag of course!)

What is your problem with the Belgian flag, Lars? If you start making politics on this forum, I will feel obliged to censor your mails.

Aircraft from EU countries usually bear the EU flag together with the national flag of their home country.

Why should VLM be different?

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 06 Nov 2003, 11:41

I admire VLM for not having the vile EU flag on its aircraft, why should they have it?

Lars - I agree that the Airbus in VLM colours would look superb, just a pity it's too big for their major hub airport (London City).

Good to see that more people on this forum appreciate the superb airline that is VLM.

Sink a Sloeber :drink:

EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 06 Nov 2003, 11:47

for their major hub airport (London City).

Haha,

. Antwerp is still their main hub ánd home base

. LCY is a secondary hub like Rotterdam. VLM is Flemish and will always stay Flemish.

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 06 Nov 2003, 11:50

VLM has more services from LCY than ANR, you cannot argue with that!!

The ANR-MAN flight was axed, MAN passengers now have to transit through LCY if they wish to fly to ANR with VLM, the same for Rotterdam.

EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 06 Nov 2003, 11:54

And for Hamburg, those of LCY have to pass trough Rotterdam. VLM just has no real "hub"-system, but point-to-point sevices.

Post by **sn26567** » 06 Nov 2003, 12:02

EBAW_flyer wrote:Antwerp is still their main hub ánd home base . LCY is a secondary hub like Rotterdam. VLM is Flemish and will always stay Flemish.

Sorry to contradict you! VLM is a Belgian airline (see their registration: OO-...), owned by a Dutchman. And London City is their main hub, even if their home base is Antwerp.

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 06 Nov 2003, 12:12

Andre is 100% correct (as was I) about LCY being the main VLM hub.

Here are the comparative destinations (from the VLM website).

ANR has a direct flight to London City.
LCY has direct flights to Antwerp, Brussels, Jersey, Luxembourg, Manchester and Rotterdam.

If you input a query for flights between ANR and RTM then you are given a route via London City!!!

I rest my case!!!!

Sink a Sloeber :drink:

EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 06 Nov 2003, 13:16

Sorry to contradict you! VLM is a Belgian airline (see their registration: OO-...), owned by a Dutchman.

So SkyEurope ( http://www.airliners.net/open.file/451274/L/
, www.skyeurope.com) is a Belgian Company or what? Because it's owned by a Belgian businessman. This is non sense. It doesn't matter where the owner comes from. And what about that Easyjet guy? Stelios?

Post by **sn26567** » 06 Nov 2003, 13:33

VLM is a Belgian company: its seat is in Belgium. easyJet is a UK company in the UK and a Swiss company in Switzerland. Virgin Express is also a Belgian company. And SkyEurope is a Slovakian company. The nationality of the owner or Chairman has nothing to do with it. I never said anything else.

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 06 Nov 2003, 13:59

And VLM is the only non-British airline to operate domestic flights in the UK (the MAN-LCY route).

777 · Post by **777** » 06 Nov 2003, 18:09

sn26567 wrote:EBAW_flyer wrote:
Antwerp is still their main hub ánd home base . LCY is a secondary hub like Rotterdam. VLM is Flemish and will always stay Flemish.

Sorry to contradict you! VLM is a Belgian airline (see their registration: OO-...), owned by a Dutchman. And London City is their main hub, even if their home base is Antwerp

Hallo Andre,

In the international registration list their is no prevision yet for Flemish and
Waloon registration.

Similar situation happens in Montenegro which still uses YU- reg like
Serbia.

A more important similarity is China and Taiwan(China), both use B-

Also Lichtenstein use HB- from Switzerland.

Andre

SierraFoxtrotMike · Post by **SierraFoxtrotMike** » 06 Nov 2003, 18:45

777 wrote:
sn26567 wrote:EBAW_flyer wrote:
Antwerp is still their main hub ánd home base . LCY is a secondary hub like Rotterdam. VLM is Flemish and will always stay Flemish.

Sorry to contradict you! VLM is a Belgian airline (see their registration: OO-...), owned by a Dutchman. And London City is their main hub, even if their home base is Antwerp
Hallo Andre,

In the international registration list their is no prevision yet for Flemish and
Waloon registration.

Similar situation happens in Montenegro which still uses YU- reg like
Serbia.

A more important similarity is China and Taiwan(China), both use B-

Also Lichtenstein use HB- from Switzerland.

Andre

What the hell is that ! So far as i know the flemish and waloon region are belgian NO ? So they don't need two different registration ! I'm sorry but we are not doing politic here. It doesn't mean anything does tension between the two regions we are only aviation lovers...Even if i'm flemish and from brussels i can't agree with you EBAW_flyer...It's very small coming from you...It realy make's me angry does quotes...

Regards

777 · Post by **777** » 06 Nov 2003, 19:02

777 wrote:Similar situation happens in Montenegro which still uses YU- reg like Serbia.

A more important similarity is China and Taiwan(China), both use B-

Also Lichtenstein use HB- from Switzerland.

Andre

This is a pure registration issue and in this and ONLY this context as you can read in the above quote.

It is a simple answer to EBAW_flyer's

Quote:
for their major hub airport (London City).

Haha, . Antwerp is still their main hub ánd home base . LCY is a secondary hub like Rotterdam. VLM is Flemish and will always stay Flemish.

and

sn26567 wrote:Sorry to contradict you! VLM is a Belgian airline (see their registration: OO-...), owned by a Dutchman. And London City is their main hub, even if their home base is Antwerp.

See you

Andre

Lars · Post by **Lars** » 06 Nov 2003, 19:05

sn26567 wrote:
Lars wrote:I really like the VLM-Airbus!! (without Belgian flag of course!)
What is your problem with the Belgian flag, Lars? If you start making politics on this forum, I will feel obliged to censor your mails.

Aircraft from EU countries usually bear the EU flag together with the national flag of their home country.

Why should VLM be different?

Censor?? 8O Freedom of speech, never heared of it?? 8O

I don't have a "problem" with the belgian flag, I just don't like it because I don't feel belgian myself. I see myself as a Flemish European or a European Fleming. (But that's very personal ofcourse)

And VLM is indeed a Flemish airline (Vlààmse Luchtvaart Maatschappij), the Flemish lion is even part of their logo. And VLM is based in Antwerp.

(I know that VLM is officially a Belgian airline, because Flanders is (for now) still part of "Belgium". But things can change....

EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 06 Nov 2003, 19:29

To set things straight, I love Belgium. but as I'm also Flemish and from Antwerp I'm proud of VLM, I think that's quite normal.

I like Flanders, Belgium ánd Europe and I'm proud of all of them

.

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 06 Nov 2003, 19:57

I just love Belgium, be it Flanders or Wallonia, I am happy to be in either.

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EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 06 Nov 2003, 21:13

Same here, I like the cities of London and New York very very much, but if I only think of Blair or Bush it gives me the creeps

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Avro · Post by **Avro** » 06 Nov 2003, 22:30

Hey guys let's stop those political talks

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(I know that VLM is officially a Belgian airline, because Flanders is (for now) still part of "Belgium". But things can change....

I hope not because I'm proud to be BELGIAN

Ciao
Chris
8)

Post by **sn26567** » 07 Nov 2003, 09:00

I think that Chris made the right and final conclusion. As this is not a political forum, but a forum for aviation lovers, I close and archive this topic.

We cannot accept messages of hatred on this forum. This goes also for opinions about the EU: I have edited one message about it.