Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

[VT-JEF]

Schedule has changed, no SSR in the following few days...

[diminbru]

According Bloomberg, LH is about to close a deal with Airbus to buy A320neo's.
The article doesn't say if it's for LH itself or for their subsidiaries.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-2 ... order.html

[tangolima]

Hello,

Sorry was already mentioned.

Greetings,

[RoMax]

Picture of D-ALTD (future OO-SNB) after paint into SN colors in Dublin (now already back in DUS as previously mentionned)

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1016789

[pjms21]

Is it possible that OO-SSR made it's first flight today? If somebody could confirm this pls

[sdbelgium]

Is it possible that OO-SSR made it's first flight today? If somebody could confirm this pls

I think that's correct: BEL1PY and BEL67C BRU-FCO vv.

[diminbru]

Can anyone tell me if DJL is still in the fleet.
I tracked its last flight and it says BEL9974. Looks like a ferry flight. No?

[VT-JEF]

Returned on the 5th March as SN9974 from MAN and flying again 6th of March.

[ggmeese]

Airbus A320-214 (1493) OO-SNB Brussels Airlines delivery 21apr11 DUS-BRU, D-reg (ex D-ALTD)

Credit: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de

[ggmeese]

"New" A320 OO-SNB entered commercial service yesterday 23/05

[Heterodyne]

The Bombardier CSeries received an order for 3 CS100 and options for 3 more from an 'unnamed but well-established airline".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... 8G20110607

Speculations began on airliners.net, mentioning Brussels Airlines more than once as a possible customer for the CSeries, along with Austrian. It seems logical for SN to receive the Cseries (being part of LH group), but isn't 3 + 3 a too small order for this to be SN?

[tolipanebas]

airliners.net is renounded for ill-informed persons posting on it: mostly the 'insight' of posters at that site is limited to just spotter knowledge combined with public information sources and some daydreaming.

As you've said yourself: 3 + 3 is a pretty small order and definitely NOT what the LH group would order for it's subsidiaries OS and SN...besides, the group has an outstanding order for C-series to the order of 30 + 30 put in (on behalf of LX), so they are likely to build further on that one should they feel the need for more C series...

Realistically speeking, any replacement order for the combined fleet of F70/F100 (OS) and RJ85/RJ1H (SN) should be another 30 + 30 sized order, with the first batch of planes going to SN.

I don't expect it anytime soon though: LH is in no hurry, given the low lease rates on both fleets and the fact they know manufacturers like Bombardier or Embraer would kill eachother for such an eye popping order from the LH group for up to 60 planes (possibly more if LH decided to replace its own AVRO RJs simulataneously)!

[hvs89]

I just found this interesting picture of an A319 in Brussels Airlines c/s at DUB, reg G-EZEI, ex easyJet http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/5818 ... /contacts/

[Polaris]

I just found this interesting picture of an A319 in Brussels Airlines c/s at DUB, reg G-EZEI, ex easyJet http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/5818 ... /contacts/

Well spotted, but that's not the only one...

[sn26567]

I just found this interesting picture of an A319 in Brussels Airlines c/s at DUB, reg G-EZEI, ex easyJet

Coming from easyJet, currently the only A319 in SN's fleet with 2 doors above the wing. And hopefully no longer the easyJet seat density...

[crew1990]

With 4 overwing exit but normal configuration... This is so the safest A319 that SN never had

[RoMax]

With 4 overwing exit but normal configuration... This is so the safest A319 that SN never had

And I even think the A319 in SN colors look better with these double overwing exits.
But I can imagine it can be a bit annoying for the cabin crew, at one time you are flying a A319 with two overwing exits, the other time one with 4 overwing exits.
Sometimes they remove two of the 4 doors and replace it by a sort of plug, but it doesn't look like they did it here.

[cathay belgium]

For what reason will they use a plug ??
Are these exits then out of use ?
Just for putting 1 row extra in it ? OMG !
I think SN doesn't need it regarding these days loadfactors ...
Upgraded planes are well but to fill it for 95-100 is a bit optimistic..

CX-B

[RoMax]

For what reason will they use a plug ??
Are these exits then out of use ?

A319's for low cost airlines are often build with 4 overwing exits. But when a traditional airlines takes over these aircraft they don't need these 4 overwing exits as they will have less seats in it. Sometimes they replace two of these 4 exits with a plug (altough I'm not 100% sure if they do it with the A319's). Normally a door always requires more maintenance (inspection) a plug needs less maintenance. And yes these exits are out of use then.

Another exemple is the B737-900ER, because the 900ER is certified for more than 200 pax it has two extra exits between the overwing exits and the back main doors. But many airlines do not need these extra doors as they don't have more than 189 seats in their -900ER's but every aircraft is standard build with these door openings. So airlines like CO for exemple mostly decide to replace the real doors with plugs. wich can't be used, need less maintenance and doesn't take extra place in the cabin itself.

Sometimes you even see A320's with only two overwing exits (one on each side), with the others plugs. If I remember well Saudi Arabian has such A320's.

But anyway this is not the case with this A319 for SN. Of course they don't need these exits, but it doesn't make such a big difference to change them or to keep them. Olympic Air for exemple also has A319's with 4 overwing exits and they don't need them either.

[hvs89]

Sometimes you even see A320's with only two overwing exits (one on each side), with the others plugs. If I remember well Saudi Arabian has such A320's.

Right ! http://www.airliners.net/photo/Saudi-Ar ... 7ff43c0ad3