Paris air show: Orders for Airbus

teach · Post by **teach** » 20 Jun 2007, 17:19

MNG Cargo:

2 A330-200F, option for a third.

Andries · Post by **Andries** » 20 Jun 2007, 17:55

teach wrote:MNG Cargo:

2 A330-200F, option for a third.

Didn't MNG allready order some A330F's ? IS this a the firming up of that agreement or are these new orders ?

Greetz,

Andries

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 20 Jun 2007, 18:03

peacemaker wrote:and how many sales has boeing? airbus has a looot of orders 8)

Airbus has rung up an impressive order (with Qatar AL), but I'll pick Boeing's record (for the 787) over Airbus (for the A350). Boeing has received orders from some impressive, blue-chip airlines, while Airbus's orders are from smaller, less established airllines whose future is less certan.

Let's see how the order books stand at the end of the year.

teach · Post by **teach** » 20 Jun 2007, 18:20

And it's still not over yet:

Flyington orders 6 more A330-200F, on top of the six they ordered earlier this year.

Didn't MNG allready order some A330F's ? IS this a the firming up of that agreement or are these new orders ?

Firming up of the earlier agreement.

A350XWB · Post by **A350XWB** » 20 Jun 2007, 19:54

CX wrote:
A350XWB wrote:http://www.airbus.com/en/airbuslive/bou ... htm?id=698

cathay pacific chairman and A380 (photo )
When will a cathay A380 order come? I wonder i still think they're too conservative to order A380s.

I think that cx will order A380 ..later

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 20 Jun 2007, 22:40

while Airbus's orders are from smaller, less established airllines whose future is less certan.

Wow wow wow: Qatar, Etihad, Air France, Kingfisher, Aeroflot are less established airlines? Not to mention world's best Singapore...?

What about Brititish Airways?
Are they planning something?

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 21 Jun 2007, 04:28

FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:
while Airbus's orders are from smaller, less established airllines whose future is less certan.
Wow wow wow: Qatar, Etihad, Air France, Kingfisher, Aeroflot are less established airlines? Not to mention world's best Singapore...?

What about Brititish Airways?
Are they planning something?

I was referring solely to the A350 vs. B787. I do not believe that Air France has ordered the A350; I believe that Kingfisher started-up in June 2005; Ethad was established in July 2003; Qatar was established in 1994 (I believe); has Singapore ordered the current A350 (I am not sure); Aeroflot's history is not the best. US Air (which combined US Air and American West is 2005) is probably the most developed of those ordering the plane. Finnair is well established, but small.

While most of these are growing airlines and apparently have capital behind them, their futures and ability to compete on a number of new growth routes is not completely certain. Perhaps I should have used the word "young" not "smaller". Anyway, Boeing has a larger number of (B787) orders with options from more established airlines with proven histories.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 21 Jun 2007, 06:31

Just when things were starting to go better, a little setback for the A380 program:

http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.a ... 53&sid=BUS

achace · Post by **achace** » 21 Jun 2007, 08:23

I do not consider the Etihad deferment as bad news.

Airbus will undoubtedly save on penalties for late delivery, and by re-scheduling may save further penalties with other customers.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Cheers
Achace

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 21 Jun 2007, 09:18

AVIANCA 14 A320 Family aircraft and five A330-200s

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 21 Jun 2007, 10:06

Sorry smokejumper, I hadn't read ur post well 8) Well as you say USAir is strong and Singapore has 20 XWB's in order since last year's Farnborough.

Etihad's move is interesting, maybe it frees up some interesting slots for newcomers?

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 21 Jun 2007, 10:25

Wasn't Etihad the one that would recieve the 4 flight test aircraft? In that case the deferral would not help Airbus, since they would just have to park the aircraft untill then...

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 21 Jun 2007, 10:32

HONG KONG AIRLINES 51 Widebodies and Single aisle

30 A320 Family aircraft, 20 A330s as well as an Airbus Corporate Jet

spotter1102 · Post by **spotter1102** » 21 Jun 2007, 10:50

smokejumper wrote:
FLY4HOURS.BE wrote:
while Airbus's orders are from smaller, less established airllines whose future is less certan.
Wow wow wow: Qatar, Etihad, Air France, Kingfisher, Aeroflot are less established airlines? Not to mention world's best Singapore...?

What about Brititish Airways?
Are they planning something?
I was referring solely to the A350 vs. B787. I do not believe that Air France has ordered the A350; I believe that Kingfisher started-up in June 2005; Ethad was established in July 2003; Qatar was established in 1994 (I believe); has Singapore ordered the current A350 (I am not sure); Aeroflot's history is not the best. US Air (which combined US Air and American West is 2005) is probably the most developed of those ordering the plane. Finnair is well established, but small.

While most of these are growing airlines and apparently have capital behind them, their futures and ability to compete on a number of new growth routes is not completely certain. Perhaps I should have used the word "young" not "smaller". Anyway, Boeing has a larger number of (B787) orders with options from more established airlines with proven histories.

Etihad Airways was founded in March 2003 and Qatar Airways in 1997.

Desert Rat · Post by **Desert Rat** » 21 Jun 2007, 11:20

Mandala Airlines, Indonesia, has signed a contract for 25 A320s

A350XWB · Post by **A350XWB** » 21 Jun 2007, 13:14

John Leahy, l’Américain d’EADS ( sorry french langage )

http://www.challenges.fr/actualites/bus ... allen.html

leahy...superstar.. américan in airbus 8)

jet2uk · Post by **jet2uk** » 21 Jun 2007, 14:24

easyjet is going to order 35 a319

http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBasicI ... 1220070621

FLY4HOURS.BE · Post by **FLY4HOURS.BE** » 21 Jun 2007, 14:31

ILFC is gonna do something big to ensure they are in the game with the XWB and on time...
They are dealing with Airbus at this very moment.
Issue seems to be the choice of the engines which is limited to the RR but there surely will be a GE too.

Airbus expects to sell 160 more XWB orders at the airshow.

CX · Post by CX » 21 Jun 2007, 15:16

I think it's pretty amazing how the A330 is still selling quite well...

David747 · Post by **David747** » 21 Jun 2007, 16:20

More A330 orders for Airbus helps them in the widebody sales. I'm not surprised, the A330 is a very capable plane in the mid to long haul routes for many airlines.