Macquarie Airports: big plans for Brussels!

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 07 Jun 2005, 15:36

Other fish : EVA-Air could add additional pax flights (besides their cargo flights) iso Hainan....

Jean · Post by **Jean** » 07 Jun 2005, 15:45

I would love a flight here, but out of Taipei they then would have 3 flights arriving in an area of 400 km, way too close...

We have suggested to split the TPE- AMS flight, to 2 flights per week to BRU and 3 on AMS, which would increase for sure our load factor... and wold not cost much, just by transporting the crew by train...

But i don't think we will be the first, unfortunatly..

asianboy · Post by **asianboy** » 07 Jun 2005, 16:11

or attract some gulf carrier to connect to asia from their hub (dubai,doha...) why not?it's maybe the solution.
EY will come soon.they can connect asia via their hub.when EY will come,maybe some gulf carrier will study about bru...
brussels market can be good for EK and QR too.

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 07 Jun 2005, 16:41

Atlantis wrote: Develop routes: North-America East Coast Canada

Gee, I wonder what they meant by East coast Canada ...

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 07 Jun 2005, 18:40

I don't think we can expect some airlines like SIA, EVA, Malaysian, etc.
Why should they, they come at AMS, FRA, Heathrow, and they have a lot and better connections then Bru.
I don't know the reason why all those carriers leave Bru in the past?

I have no good feeling about Bru. Every day you have holes in the timetable of half hour or more. Who said Bru is the capital of Europe? That's correct but it brings us nothing.

If they want to receive long haul it has to change very much, and SN could be a potential player if they want. If they want to take the risk to buy or lease some more long haul and open new destinations they can be the connection partner of those "new carriers".

But who am I

asianboy · Post by **asianboy** » 07 Jun 2005, 21:15

i don't know

LJ · Post by LJ » 07 Jun 2005, 22:08

We have suggested to split the TPE- AMS flight, to 2 flights per week to BRU and 3 on AMS, which would increase for sure our load factor... and wold not cost much, just by transporting the crew by train...

I don't think Eva will consider this. The reason being that this would a) extremely reduce cargo capacity on the AMS-TPE route and b) extremely reduce their competitiveness in the AMS-TPE market (you can't offer 3 weekly if your competitors are offering daily flights). if they want to split they can better move all the flight to BRU and replace their 5 weekly flights with two (or more) cargo MD-11s

Jean · Post by **Jean** » 07 Jun 2005, 22:29

LJ wrote:
We have suggested to split the TPE- AMS flight, to 2 flights per week to BRU and 3 on AMS, which would increase for sure our load factor... and wold not cost much, just by transporting the crew by train...
I don't think Eva will consider this. The reason being that this would a) extremely reduce cargo capacity on the AMS-TPE route and b) extremely reduce their competitiveness in the AMS-TPE market (you can't offer 3 weekly if your competitors are offering daily flights). if they want to split they can better move all the flight to BRU and replace their 5 weekly flights with two (or more) cargo MD-11s

Of course they won't consider this

But your a) is really not a point to my feeling, as we could increase our load factor, AND knowing TPE is not the strong market for Europe, but BKK is... And i was wrong, we have 4 flights a week ex AMS, so the difference wouldn't be that great. This is not an issue to me...

And shipping all flights to BRU is even more crazy as our connecting possibilities suck

But about the cargo you're right...

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 16 Oct 2005, 11:00

It's now almost a year Macquarie took over the airport of BRU.

But what's changed in that couple of time? The stores are rescheduled, the board of directors is disappeared: now you have the only the Top and the have searched for a very long time for a new CEO.

Some people are also asking what about the cargo. It's obvious, cargo is not important for Macquarie Airport. There will be in the near future no new cargo airline at Brucargo. And what about Ethiopian Cargo: they still didn't gave there new timetable for the winter season.
Although I thought Macquarie saw also the benefits of a very strong cargo airport like BRU.

And what about new long haul? In this couple of months we saw new airlines and airlines who disappear. But they were from European origin.

For the moment no new long haul, except the talks for the moment with Japanese and Chinese carriers. Etihad will come end of this month and we have to place a big question mark for Jet Airways.

The main task of Macquarie is to make a lot of benefit. And for the moment BRU is on top of the portfolio of Macquarie, that's good news.

I hope after the talks of the different governments they can bring good news. That will be a sign for Macquarie to develop the airport and I hope they will search for more new cargo and pax airlines.

Airbus330lover · Post by **Airbus330lover** » 16 Oct 2005, 19:40

Atlantis wrote:It's now almost a year Macquarie took over the airport of BRU.

But what's changed in that couple of time? The stores are rescheduled, the board of directors is disappeared: now you have the only the Top and the have searched for a very long time for a new CEO.

Some people are also asking what about the cargo. It's obvious, cargo is not important for Macquarie Airport. There will be in the near future no new cargo airline at Brucargo. And what about Ethiopian Cargo: they still didn't gave there new timetable for the winter season.
Although I thought Macquarie saw also the benefits of a very strong cargo airport like BRU.

And what about new long haul? In this couple of months we saw new airlines and airlines who disappear. But they were from European origin.

For the moment no new long haul, except the talks for the moment with Japanese and Chinese carriers. Etihad will come end of this month and we have to place a big question mark for Jet Airways.

The main task of Macquarie is to make a lot of benefit. And for the moment BRU is on top of the portfolio of Macquarie, that's good news.

I hope after the talks of the different governments they can bring good news. That will be a sign for Macquarie to develop the airport and I hope they will search for more new cargo and pax airlines.

My opinion.
Very diificult to have new longhaul unless the political problems are solved.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 16 Oct 2005, 20:28

That's also my opinion. The last paragraph was about that.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 22 Oct 2005, 15:53

I have a little question.

Next to the building of Skyshops is build a very big macadam, since a couple of weeks are also some lampposts. It seems to be that this is a new parking area in open air. Can someone confirm this that it will be a parkingspot? Could it be that this is the "possible new parking for airport staff?

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 22 Oct 2005, 16:27

Hi all,

In one of their press releases MAp is saying:

“Total passenger growth of 3.8% on the pcp was achieved in the nine months to 30 September 2005, which was ahead of the financial year 2004 performance of 2.9%. This traffic growth momentum is likely to build with the introduction of a number of new long haul routes by middle eastern carriers in the coming months,” (Ms Mather)

She is speaking about a number ... of routes ... by middle eastern carriers ... Does this mean that there will be not only Ethiad. Does she know something we don't know, or is it a lapsus referring only to Ethiad flights?

Danny

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 22 Oct 2005, 16:38

I had placed an other topic about that. BIAC is in talks with some carriers to organise flights to China and the Middle East. So, it could be that she refered to that.
But about the Chinese carriers, I don't think that we can expect them very soon. BIAC wants to try to get them here asap.

Let us hope that the flights to the Middle East, like she said "a number of" are coming very soon.

Post by **Kapitein** » 22 Oct 2005, 19:26

Atlantis wrote:I have a little question.

Next to the building of Skyshops is build a very big macadam, since a couple of weeks are also some lampposts. It seems to be that this is a new parking area in open air. Can someone confirm this that it will be a parkingspot? Could it be that this is the "possible new parking for airport staff?

It's indeed the new staffparking, parking Korenberg.
The old parking is disappearing bit by bit for new cargostands.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 22 Oct 2005, 20:02

Thanks Brubiac.

BTW, is there more news about those new cargostands? Is this an extention to create more space for the cargo airplanes at this moment or could it be that Brucargo wants to attract more cargoplanes?

Post by **Kapitein** » 23 Oct 2005, 07:02

Atlantis,
in the first stage this is a extension only. Maybe in the future it could mean that they gonna attract more flights. But at this moment there aren't any new carriers expected.

lumumba · Post by **lumumba** » 23 Oct 2005, 20:38

Hi everybody.
But the exsting companies can expand now if they want.
Also I think it was not a place for carpark.
Regards
Pat

Vinnie-Winnie · Post by **Vinnie-Winnie** » 23 Oct 2005, 22:23

Well to be honnest I really think you need to look at the biggest business customers of BRU...

In my opinion the European Commission comes first! That's why we have got so many european routes! Can anyone carry on the list??? That might actually enable us to carry on the debate in a more customer friendly approach!

Post by **sn26567** » 24 Oct 2005, 09:20

Vinnie-Winnie wrote:I really think you need to look at the biggest business customers of BRU...

In my opinion the European Commission comes first!

I remember that in the nineties, Solvay was the second largest customer of Sabena (this is why Davignon, who was a Director at Solvay, insisted to have a new Belgian airline after the bankruptcy of Sabena, and Solvay is still a shareholder of SN BA).

They did not say who was the first one, but the European Commission is a good guess

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