2008-2009 Charleroi Airport (CRL) latest news

[flightlover]

to Flightlover :
I do not know building rules in Zaventem but here you even need a permit to install a Velux window on your roof or a garden shed next to your house. But I understand that BIAC have postponed the opening to 2011.
Regular companies already active in BRU are 100% against such a policy . Low Cost airlines = Lower charges ; regular Airlines = High charges (amongst the highest in Europe )
Rgds.

That is why I said structural e.g.: extra windows in roofs or walls that are bearing the weight of the building
You could say they just painted the walls and brought in new desks, so only decorative work for which you don't have to have a permit.

But that is all I'm going to say about it since this is not a building forum.

The rest of you're comment is vallid. I wouldn't like to pay more for the same service. But than again the low-cost terminal is less luxurious.

[Charlie Roy]

From April 2010 Ryanair's Charleroi - Alicante will increase from 7 weekly to 10 weekly.
Ryanair will base 3 additional aircraft at Alicante. In total they'll increase frequencies on 9 routes and they will also introduce 7 new routes from Alicante: Altenburg, Krakow, Seville, Smaland-Vaxjo, Stockholm Vasteras, Valladolid, Venice Treviso.

[Boeing767copilot]

From april 2010 Jetairfly will fly from CRL to Istanbul on tuesday, thursday and sunday.
During the summer season Freebird Airlines will fly for Jetairfly two times a week from CRL to Antalya.

source: Travel Magazine Aviation Newsletter

[sn26567]

Charleroi: 41% more passengers in November

Charleroi Airport (BSCA) registered 341,662 passengers in November, 41% or 98,641 passengers more thzn in November 2008 (243,021).

The number of destinations from Brussels South Charleroi changed from 43 to 74 in lees than one year. Jetairfly started its thrice-weekly flights to Murcia (Alicante South). Ryanair started daily flights to Oslo and Stockholm. (Source: BSCA 2 December 2009)

[Acid-drop]

It's all because of the crisis ! rhmmm, well, I mean .... rhmm ... nevermind.

[Acid-drop]

Ryanair will have 3 more A/C based in CRL (total of 11).
http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/economie ... 1662.shtml

The number of destinations should be over 90 in the future.
This is getting completely out of control Who ever thought of such a speedy growth

[cnc]

very nice but FR can go away just as fast so i prefere more destinations from other carriers
btw anyone an idea how many direct jobs FR created at CRL? handling and stuff doesn't count

[stefanel]

That's great news! I was expecting it but the future looks bright for low cost travellers like me.
This year, I flew Ryanair over 20 times and never paid over 10€ one way all in. The average is at around 5€ which always makes the bus ride much more expensive than my FR tickets : isn't that ridiculous !
Imagine Europe without Ryanair !
I can only remember my Erasmus year spent in Bologna, I had to use Eurolines as Sabena tickets were 300€ return. Now I'm flying to and from Bologna for 1€ ! It's a different world!

[airazurxtror]

That's great news! I was expecting it but the future looks bright for low cost travellers like me.

Imagine Europe without Ryanair !

It's a different world!

Quite so !
Thirty years ago, a Sabena ticket to Rome (for example) cost more than a Ryanair ticket today ... indexation in reverse !
I wonder what will be the new destinations - and impatient to try at least some of them.
LCC are set to be a growing part of commercial aviation - a pity that Brusses delibaretely choosed to be by-passed by it.

[Buzz]

The number of destinations should be over 90 in the future.
This is getting completely out of control Who ever thought of such a speedy growth

Didn't MoL predicted a few years ago that the CRL base would have 15 aircraft by 2010-2012? Everyone (myself included) thought he was crazy, but they can reach that number in summer/winter 2011 if they want to...

It is really good news though, both for CRL and FR!
The bigger the base gets, the harder it will be for FR to abandon it and even a train station at the airport will start to make sense...

I flew FR a lot, but I switched to Jetairfly mostly, since BRU can be reached easily by train and and they have good last-minutes with clear all-inclusive prices, which FR doesn't do.
If CRL get's a train station, (or MST expands rapidly), and FR stop with all the stupid 'optional charges', I'd be happy to switch back to FR!

[Desert Rat]

It is really good news though, both for CRL and FR!
The bigger the base gets, the harder it will be for FR to abandon it and even a train station at the airport will start to make sense...

You are right about the size of the FR CRL operation,also,they do have a train station in project, if I'm not wrong...

[airazurxtror]

Unfortunately for CRL, "Ecolo" is now in the Walloon government, and they don't like aviation.
They have already put the brake on the runway extension ...

[OO-JFP]

The number of destinations should be over 90 in the future.
This is getting completely out of control Who ever thought of such a speedy growth

It's not that difficult to grow like hell in a country where they get everything for free, even at the expense of the national airline. It's about time they (RYR) start to pay for normal things like "ATC" to name one.

OO-JFP

[airazurxtror]

at the expense of the national airline.
OO-JFP

"national airline" ? Brussels Airlines has never been the national airline, and even less so now it's German.
Anyway, the good old times of sabenian-like monopoly are fortunately over !

[pressman]

OO-JFP , you are very poorly informed , every airline has to pay for ATC regardless of how much they use it , or indeed wheather they are a Loco or legacy airline . FR get nothing for free anywhere,especially ATC. They get low rates at various airports , these rates are available to any airline who brings the same number of PAX as them . It is called market forces , you do somehing in bulk you get a lower price , this is the same for any business.

[flightlover]

OO-JFP , you are very poorly informed , every airline has to pay for ATC regardless of how much they use it , or indeed wheather they are a Loco or legacy airline . FR get nothing for free anywhere,especially ATC. They get low rates at various airports , these rates are available to any airline who brings the same number of PAX as them . It is called market forces , you do somehing in bulk you get a lower price , this is the same for any business.

Yes true, its the bulk number that does it. NOT

Buying customers is an illegal thing (due to regulation) and I think you could say Rayanair is being bought by CRL if you see how low fares they have to pay. No wonder they are happy flying there, they get the airport service almost for free. And you could say it shows, FR drops an airport over night when they have to pay more than they like or DONT GET AS MUCH as they like.

[Acid-drop]

Still, it's hard to imagine that the result can be negative. They create a nice airport out of nothing and gave thousand jobs to a region that needed them badly.

[Desert Rat]

[I think you could say Rayanair is being bought by CRL if you see how low fares they have to pay. No wonder they are happy flying there, they get the airport service almost for free. And you could say it shows, FR drops an airport over night when they have to pay more than they like or DONT GET AS MUCH as they like.

So what???

Pax are flying cheap, jobs are created in CRL, if FR leaves CRL don't worry , there will be somebody else to operate out of these nice infrastructures ideally located, and who knows CRL could become one day a real "international" airport for a new liberated country...

[willem]

OO-JFP , you are very poorly informed , every airline has to pay for ATC regardless of how much they use it , or indeed wheather they are a Loco or legacy airline . FR get nothing for free anywhere,especially ATC. They get low rates at various airports , these rates are available to any airline who brings the same number of PAX as them . It is called market forces , you do somehing in bulk you get a lower price , this is the same for any business.

If you can speak dutch, search/buy "Trends" with the article about Belgocontrol... In Belgium only traffic flying in/out of BRU pays full price!

[airazurxtror]

Buying customers is an illegal thing (due to regulation) and I think you could say Rayanair is being bought by CRL if you see how low fares they have to pay. No wonder they are happy flying there, they get the airport service almost for free. And you could say it shows, FR drops an airport over night when they have to pay more than they like or DONT GET AS MUCH as they like.

Ryanair and BSCA now follow the rules set by the European Union, and, as far as I know, nobody has initiated any judicial action any more on that count against them.
As long as it follows those rules, any airport is free to offer the best conditions to potential customers.