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The works for the fire stations don't start in 2018, they're supposed to be finished in 2018

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Tompompier wrote:The works for the fire stations don't start in 2018, they're supposed to be finished in 2018
Yes indeed, was a typo of mine. Sorry

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Tompompier wrote:With the building of 2 new fire stations, the landside station will be integrated in one of the 2 new stations.Tompompier
This new integrated landside station will be at the same location?
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No, this one will be gone. Location of the mixed one will be on the road if you continue driving past b.house and thomas cook offices.

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BRU wrote:No, this one will be gone. Location of the mixed one will be on the road if you continue driving past b.house and thomas cook offices.
It's rather sad that the investment in this fire station will only have served for a short lifespan. I guess it was built in the late nineties.

I understand that the new one expectedly comes on the empty lot across the warehouse of Belgian Sky Shops.
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Atlantis wrote:
Airbus A330 wrote:
Atlantis wrote:Other big construction works will start in the near future, in 2018
What will it be?
Hi Airbus A330,

The fire departments like I wrote ;)
Thanks! ;)

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I just have a question anout the T terminal, as it's only possible to put 1 A330 every 2 gates, it looks like the capacity maximum for the terminal is 7 aircraft. It has never been a problem as there were never 8 aircraft park at the same time as the IAD flight was an afternoon flight departing from the B terminal, however from this summer there will be regarding the schedule of the flight 7 departure everyday nor on Sunday, on Sunday there will be for the first time in the history of the T terminal 8 aircraft parked at the same time, how will Bru Airport deal with that as there will not be enough gate on Sunday, (and if a 9th A330 join the fleet?)

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Previously, there was only room for 6 widebodies at the T-zone. But last year (or 2 years ago, I don't remember exactly), I think they added 2 gates at the end, so 2 additional A330's could be parked diagonally (with quite long jetways). So 8 A330's can be parked simultaneously in the T-zone.
And even if a 9th A330 is added, it still wouldn't be a problem because the DLA-NSI flight (369, 373) and the ABJ flight (251, 231) leave in the afternoon (at around 14.30-15.00).

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Just saw this picture on twitter...

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Seriously, this looks awful! The old terminal looks like an airport in Eastern Europe in the 80's...

Any plans to modernize it?

For comparison, a modern departures area... See the difference?
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The part of the 90's terminal is not great, but not that ugly either, but indeed the part of the old terminal (the leisure departures hall on which they did such a good job on the inside) is terrible... Would be a good idea if they renovate it in line with the Gateway building right next to it. Once Gateway is finished, that part of the terminal will stand out even more as an extremely ugly facade, so hopefully they plan to renovate it (and in a style which is in line with Gateway and at the same time the other part of the terminal entrance).

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The "ugly-ness" of that building is very exaggerated on the picture above, through some (not so ideal) photo manipulating techniques.
Granted, a few renovations might be welcome, but it's not by far as bad as it looks above.
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KriVa wrote:The "ugly-ness" of that building is very exaggerated on the picture above, through some (not so ideal) photo manipulating techniques.
Granted, a few renovations might be welcome, but it's not by far as bad as it looks above.
Well, especially in more grey-ish weather, it just looks very ugly in reality as well... An airport with the size of BRU should look a bit more attractive really. Renovating just the facade of the building would already make a huge difference and isn't that expensive. They should have done that already before opening that new departures hall in my opinion.

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Hi brand new here on this forum, and I had a few questions:

Does anybody know whether BRU is going to construct a new departure building on the soon to be free DHL's current location?

When will they start / finish building the extension of concourse A West?

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cloudnine wrote:Hi brand new here on this forum, and I had a few questions:

Does anybody know whether BRU is going to construct a new departure building on the soon to be free DHL's current location?

When will they start / finish building the extension of concourse A West?
Welcome on the forum cloudnine ;)

The location of the old DHL building located right next to the current terminal and the Connector (I don't know if they even still use it or if it's already empty and I don't know the number of the building) is indeed as far as I know reserved for a second terminal (and possibly also running a bit further to the west where other DHL buildings are located?). But I don't know anything about the timing of these plans, I assume we won't see the opening of a T2 before 2020.

Last things I heard about A Pier West is that these plans are also still 'on hold' as there is no immediate pressure on the non-Schengen capacity and despite the rapid growth in pax numbers for BRU, growth in number of long haul flights is not that big. But I hope they do realise that from the moment SN and other carriers launch long haul expansion plans, it's actually already too late to start building A Pier West. The timing has to be right of course, it's a big investment, but if they have yet to start building the extension when they face a lack of non-Schengen stands, that's very disadvantageous for BRU's development. The annoying thing with BRU of course is that Pier B is almost empty during certain hours of the day.

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@ Cloudnine.....welcome :-)

Isn't the building you're describing the one used by the handling company Swissport?
That building used to belong to DHL....
If so, what will happen to the handling company then?...

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simulator wrote: Isn't the building you're describing the one used by the handling company Swissport?
That building used to belong to DHL....
If so, what will happen to the handling company then?...
Ah that's possible. But if that's the case, it still wouldn't be a problem if BRU needs that location for a new terminal (which will not happen in the near future anyway). More than enough place around the airport, especially when DHL moves to the other side of the airport.

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RoMax wrote:
KriVa wrote:The "ugly-ness" of that building is very exaggerated on the picture above, through some (not so ideal) photo manipulating techniques.
Granted, a few renovations might be welcome, but it's not by far as bad as it looks above.
Well, especially in more grey-ish weather, it just looks very ugly in reality as well... An airport with the size of BRU should look a bit more attractive really. Renovating just the facade of the building would already make a huge difference and isn't that expensive. They should have done that already before opening that new departures hall in my opinion.
Exactly. They should integrate the 2 terminals with a new modern facade, preferably with some sort of roof covering a part of the road/parkings in front. There are many examples worldwide.

Like this:
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I've done a quick photoshop (don't mind the details) to see how it would look like:

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Wouldn't this be great? BRU almost looks like a real airport now! 8-)

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Not bad at all!

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A complete glass facade would be wonderful! :)

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RoMax wrote:The part of the 90's terminal is not great, but not that ugly either, but indeed the part of the old terminal (the leisure departures hall on which they did such a good job on the inside) is terrible... Would be a good idea if they renovate it in line with the Gateway building right next to it. Once Gateway is finished, that part of the terminal will stand out even more as an extremely ugly facade, so hopefully they plan to renovate it (and in a style which is in line with Gateway and at the same time the other part of the terminal entrance).
The front side of the Old Terminal next to the new building of Deloitte will still be more or less ok but have you ever thought of the back side, the airside? That's really bad. Overthere you have the big Skyhall and that will be ohh so ugly against the new Deloitte building.

But I can tell you that the front of the Old Terminal and the back, with the Sky hall, are one and the same building.

At this moment no plans for renovation. At this moment there are already so many construction works and even more in the pipeline and all of them costs a lot of money.

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