Hi All,
Final update on OY-VKN, it was delivered this afternoon to BCN (Sat 4th) as EC-JDO, so I guess another one to look out for at BRU from tomorrow,
Rgds
Tony
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Hi All,
9H-AER has also been seen today in full Vueling colours at BCN, so that make 6 aircraft in operation,
EC-HZU Airbus A320-214 1578 ex FWWBO
EC-IZD Airbus A320-214 2207 ex FWWDS
EC-JAB Airbus A320-214 2227 ex FWWIS
EC-JDK Airbus A320-214 1769 ex 9HADY
EC-JDO Airbus A320-214 2114 ex OYVKN
9H-AER Airbus A320 214 2178 ex FWWIP lf AMC
Rgds
Tony
9H-AER has also been seen today in full Vueling colours at BCN, so that make 6 aircraft in operation,
EC-HZU Airbus A320-214 1578 ex FWWBO
EC-IZD Airbus A320-214 2207 ex FWWDS
EC-JAB Airbus A320-214 2227 ex FWWIS
EC-JDK Airbus A320-214 1769 ex 9HADY
EC-JDO Airbus A320-214 2114 ex OYVKN
9H-AER Airbus A320 214 2178 ex FWWIP lf AMC
Rgds
Tony
Here she is
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Hope to see here soon!
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=283477
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=279667
Hope to see here soon!
Tot hier en verder
I'm starting a project od a virtual airline, based on vueling airlines. I would like to know wether there is a source in internet about detailed info on airlines. Is there a database with registration numbers, information about fleet, company rules, and other stuff?
My aim is to try to simulate the real airline as real as it can get.
Can anyone help me about these sources? Thanks a lot.
My aim is to try to simulate the real airline as real as it can get.
Can anyone help me about these sources? Thanks a lot.
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trie http://www.planemad.netpepribal wrote:I'm starting a project od a virtual airline, based on vueling airlines. I would like to know wether there is a source in internet about detailed info on airlines. Is there a database with registration numbers, information about fleet, company rules, and other stuff?
My aim is to try to simulate the real airline as real as it can get.
Can anyone help me about these sources? Thanks a lot.
Wel I just looked at your website you say there. I have to say that you can't find that much. According to that website Vueling would ony have 2 airplanes in service. Well, everybody knows that they have 6 for the moment. I use aerotransport database.
But what is it that you are looking from Vueling? If it is the fleet and the routes they are flying you can ask me and I will send it to you.
But what is it that you are looking from Vueling? If it is the fleet and the routes they are flying you can ask me and I will send it to you.
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concordino
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Waldova
Most of the databases you find on the web are operated by amateurs so are usually a little slow updating - spare time activities, priorities etc.
If you need acccurate,up-todfate info you will probably need to subscribe to a commercial database - maybe more than you need, or your credit card can bear!!
Concordino
Most of the databases you find on the web are operated by amateurs so are usually a little slow updating - spare time activities, priorities etc.
If you need acccurate,up-todfate info you will probably need to subscribe to a commercial database - maybe more than you need, or your credit card can bear!!
Concordino
Thanks to all.
Waldova, if you were so kind to send me punctual information about vueling, that woud be very nice. Where can I contact you? Could you send me your contact info: email, etc.? My address is pepribal@hotmail.com
Thanks once more.
Waldova, if you were so kind to send me punctual information about vueling, that woud be very nice. Where can I contact you? Could you send me your contact info: email, etc.? My address is pepribal@hotmail.com
Thanks once more.
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this is uncorrect
In my opinion this 46,7% is totally unreal. It means an average ticket fare of 80 Euros in 180 capacity a/cwaldova wrote:They are having on all their flights a average loadfactor between 60 and 70%. For being profitable on a flight they need a load factor of 46,7%. On most flight they get this loadfactor.
Ryanair and Easyjet are about 50 Euros/ticket
What are your sources for this data?
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jbeltran1973
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sources???
My source is also from Vueling management.
I think you must check your sources and be cautious in your words.
I've hear in Barcelona financial forum, that Vueling is going to be "for sale" in less than 1 year, just by the fact that the Management is quaking about the possibility that Ryanair don't want them here in its future domestic market. And Spanair is the next...
This is the real.
I think you must check your sources and be cautious in your words.
I've hear in Barcelona financial forum, that Vueling is going to be "for sale" in less than 1 year, just by the fact that the Management is quaking about the possibility that Ryanair don't want them here in its future domestic market. And Spanair is the next...
This is the real.
nonsense
Well,
What you say here is nonsense. Why would a company that is investing so much going to sell itself. Why would a management that invested a lot of money in a company want to sell it. And what has ryanair to do with all of this. It is not because ryanair is a concurrent company that a company is going to sell itself.
The aim of Vueling is to become one of the great low cost companys in Europe. Investors from Vueling are from Jet Blue in the US and they want to achieve what they achieved in the US. Become really big, just like ryanair in Europe and as Jet Blue in the states. So, forget it, selling is not in the plans of the Vueling management.
Your sources from Vueling management. I don't think so, I think it is just some things that somebody might have insinuated on that forum from Barcelona.
Well, actually I don't care what you think because I know where I've got my info from and that is what counts for me.
What you say here is nonsense. Why would a company that is investing so much going to sell itself. Why would a management that invested a lot of money in a company want to sell it. And what has ryanair to do with all of this. It is not because ryanair is a concurrent company that a company is going to sell itself.
The aim of Vueling is to become one of the great low cost companys in Europe. Investors from Vueling are from Jet Blue in the US and they want to achieve what they achieved in the US. Become really big, just like ryanair in Europe and as Jet Blue in the states. So, forget it, selling is not in the plans of the Vueling management.
Your sources from Vueling management. I don't think so, I think it is just some things that somebody might have insinuated on that forum from Barcelona.
Well, actually I don't care what you think because I know where I've got my info from and that is what counts for me.
http://www.mercermc.de/mapper.php3?file ... tion%2Fpdf
http://www.mercermc.de/plain.php3?conte ... navlink=63
It's in german but might add some trustworthy figures to the debate....
http://www.mercermc.de/plain.php3?conte ... navlink=63
It's in german but might add some trustworthy figures to the debate....
This articles show that the market for low cost carriers is growing every year and that two airlines are dominant in the low cost, Ryanair and easyjet.
This everybody will agree of.
But everybody will also agree to the fact that three or two low cost carriers are more dominaned than others doesn't have to mean that all the others will disapear.
Why would vueling be sold at the end of next year? Because it is taking passangers from Ryanair? I think that Germanwings, Basiq air, Air Berlin and Virgin Express are taking a lot of passangers from ryanair too. So they have survived and are still flying and showing good results every year. If they can exist I don't see a threat for Vueling. Well, it can happen that one or two low cost carriers will drop out of the leage, look at Volareweb. But this can happen to any airline.
Also Vueling is the first low cost carrier in Spain. Well now Ryanair and Easyjet are based for the major part in England. As spain is bigger than Ryanair I believe Vueling has a bigger market available than ryanair in England. But ofcourse this will take time to grow. But for the moment they are growing.
So in my opinion Vueling is there to stay!!!
This everybody will agree of.
But everybody will also agree to the fact that three or two low cost carriers are more dominaned than others doesn't have to mean that all the others will disapear.
Why would vueling be sold at the end of next year? Because it is taking passangers from Ryanair? I think that Germanwings, Basiq air, Air Berlin and Virgin Express are taking a lot of passangers from ryanair too. So they have survived and are still flying and showing good results every year. If they can exist I don't see a threat for Vueling. Well, it can happen that one or two low cost carriers will drop out of the leage, look at Volareweb. But this can happen to any airline.
Also Vueling is the first low cost carrier in Spain. Well now Ryanair and Easyjet are based for the major part in England. As spain is bigger than Ryanair I believe Vueling has a bigger market available than ryanair in England. But ofcourse this will take time to grow. But for the moment they are growing.
So in my opinion Vueling is there to stay!!!
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jbeltran1973
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spanish markets
Have a look to the new Ryanair Timetable for VLC-MIL and VLC-ROM. This is a clear example of the Ryanair methods. Only taxes in a route where Vueling is operating from 10 Euros...
Ryanair is going to spread his market in Italy now, but the next step is of course East Europe and after that Spain. They have talked about this. And no far this date Lara family will be out of Vueling. They invest, they obtain sweeteners for Catalonia Generalitat, and they finally sale the company and obtain extra results.
About my sources, say what you want but A.Claver says as frequently as he can that their 1ST target is always to put out the market tha competence, and Vueling is a clear tarjet for them.
I would like to say better news but I only transmitt what I here daily.
How many money have invest this year Volare?? More than Vueling is doing in a 3 year period.
Ryanair is going to spread his market in Italy now, but the next step is of course East Europe and after that Spain. They have talked about this. And no far this date Lara family will be out of Vueling. They invest, they obtain sweeteners for Catalonia Generalitat, and they finally sale the company and obtain extra results.
About my sources, say what you want but A.Claver says as frequently as he can that their 1ST target is always to put out the market tha competence, and Vueling is a clear tarjet for them.
I would like to say better news but I only transmitt what I here daily.
How many money have invest this year Volare?? More than Vueling is doing in a 3 year period.
Maybe Ryanair is flying out of Valencia to Rome and Milan, but Vueling has more flights out of Valencia to more destinations. Also Valencia is not the main base for Vueling, the main base for Vueling is Barcelona. Ryanair is flying to Girona. So passangers are first going to choose for flights directly out of Barcelona because going to Girona takes a while if you are in Barcelona.
No, I don't see Vueling dissapear in a year. By the way, Vueling only started this year. They invested in 6 planes already. And comparing with Volare web is a bad thing. Maybe Volareweb invested too much money and it became fatal for them. Vueling is doing it slower and that is a smart move. Better grow slowly than growing to fast and be bankcrupt in a year.
No, I don't see Vueling dissapear in a year. By the way, Vueling only started this year. They invested in 6 planes already. And comparing with Volare web is a bad thing. Maybe Volareweb invested too much money and it became fatal for them. Vueling is doing it slower and that is a smart move. Better grow slowly than growing to fast and be bankcrupt in a year.