What about Miami ? Wake up please ?

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 06 Apr 2005, 22:27

It would be great, but with all the rumours going on lately I will only believe it when the first plane has landed in BRU.

Chris

Post by **Bruspotter** » 06 Apr 2005, 23:40

Hello

Why doesn't AA does what it (almost) promised.

Open a new destination MIA-BRU.
They could operate a 763 (smaller plane than a SN333), and code-share with SN Brussels , since SN and AA are good-friended code-sharing partners since a pretty long time...

That's the solution I see.
AA might even use a 757????Or for sure it could be done with a B767-200ER.

Best regards: Yannick

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 07 Apr 2005, 03:52

ATC wrote:There are strong rumours that AA is looking to expand their MIA --> European network . The two favorites for the moment are BRU and FRA.
An annoucement is expected in two to four months from now...

Greetings,
ATC

Last week AA posted a job vacancy on biac.be for an extra LEISURE account manager at bru town office.
Maybe for the extra LEISURE destination MIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TWA

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 07 Apr 2005, 03:56

ATC wrote:I have a feeling AA is maybe considering to make BRU a mini european hub. (JFK-BRU/ORD-BRU/MIA-BRU ?).
If SNBA expands its african network this choice would even make more sense for AA.

greetings,
ATC

ATC, I hope you're right with your AA-hub in BRU --> and I hope this will create more jobs at BRU airport : groundstaff and crew

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 07 Apr 2005, 08:44

TWA wrote:
ATC wrote:I have a feeling AA is maybe considering to make BRU a mini european hub. (JFK-BRU/ORD-BRU/MIA-BRU ?).
If SNBA expands its african network this choice would even make more sense for AA.

greetings,
ATC

ATC, I hope you're right with your AA-hub in BRU --> and I hope this will create more jobs at BRU airport : groundstaff and crew

...Well if you all remember back in 1993, AA already used to operate 3 daily flights out of BRU: JFK-ORD-DFW.
Those were the times...
We had more overseas airliners at that time than we have now 12 years later.

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 07 Apr 2005, 08:46

Bruspotter wrote:Hello

Why doesn't AA does what it (almost) promised.

Open a new destination MIA-BRU.
They could operate a 763 (smaller plane than a SN333), and code-share with SN Brussels , since SN and AA are good-friended code-sharing partners since a pretty long time...

That's the solution I see.
AA might even use a 757????Or for sure it could be done with a B767-200ER.

Best regards: Yannick

Coorect me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK American doesn't operates the 762 anymore. They are all stored in the Californian desert.

FB.

Post by **Kapitein** » 07 Apr 2005, 08:56

Flying-Belgian wrote:
Bruspotter wrote:Hello

Why doesn't AA does what it (almost) promised.

Open a new destination MIA-BRU.
They could operate a 763 (smaller plane than a SN333), and code-share with SN Brussels , since SN and AA are good-friended code-sharing partners since a pretty long time...

That's the solution I see.
AA might even use a 757????Or for sure it could be done with a B767-200ER.

Best regards: Yannick

Coorect me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK American doesn't operates the 762 anymore. They are all stored in the Californian desert.

FB.

Some of them are still flying, a few weeks ago they came with a 767-200ER to BRU as replacement for their 763ER

OrientThai · Post by **OrientThai** » 07 Apr 2005, 13:48

AA will certainly add more routes out of BRU.
Swiss is the main European partner of AA, but now that LX is taken over by LH, AA will probably increase it's partnership with SNBA.
I'm pretty sure BRU will get the MIA flights.
There is also rumours about a possible USA-BRU-BOM flight operated by AA.

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 07 Apr 2005, 13:54

@ Bruspotter: the 752 can't operate MIA-BRU as it's a lot out of it's range.

ATC · Post by **ATC** » 07 Apr 2005, 20:41

Swiss is the main European partner of AA, but now that LX is taken over by LH, AA will probably increase it's partnership with SNBA.

I'm sure BA is the main European partner. Oneworld ...
But like you said with the new "Swiss-LH" situation AA is looking for a new strong European mainland partner between Star Alliance and Skyteam.
BRU and SNBA are (next to LHR and BA) the best options.

greetings,
ATC

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 07 Apr 2005, 20:41

Brubiac wrote:

Some of them are still flying, a few weeks ago they came with a 767-200ER to BRU as replacement for their 763ER

Was that not Continental ?

Danny

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 07 Apr 2005, 20:43

OrientThai wrote:There is also rumours about a possible USA-BRU-BOM flight operated by AA.

8O 8O

What the hell would they fly this route. Do they already connect USA to India?

Besdide Miami I would rather think of a connection with their hub Dallas ...

Danny

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 07 Apr 2005, 20:54

DannyVDB wrote:
Brubiac wrote:Some of them are still flying, a few weeks ago they came with a 767-200ER to BRU as replacement for their 763ER
Was that not Continental ?

They also did last week, indeed. But also American some weeks ago as Brubiac mentioned.

teach · Post by **teach** » 07 Apr 2005, 21:03

Do they already connect USA to India?

Nope. But they have recently asked for and received permission to start flying to India. It'll take a while, since quite a few other formalities still need to be carried out, probably even a few years, but they do plan on flying to India. And they're apparently planning to make it a one-stop route through Europe, and BRU has been named as a prime candidate for that.

The other US airline to have received permission to start flying to India is Northwest, and they'll route their flights through AMS.

ATC · Post by **ATC** » 07 Apr 2005, 21:32

And they're apparently planning to make it a one-stop route through Europe, and BRU has been named as a prime candidate for that.

Indeed I also confirm this strong "rumour".
In the best case it will take 18 to 24 months to open such a route.
AA hasn't confirm anything... the only thing they have confirmed is that they have a permission to fly this USA-india route.

I think AA could have big plans with BRU airport...?

greetings,
ATC

Post by **Kapitein** » 08 Apr 2005, 10:24

DannyVDB wrote:
Brubiac wrote:

Some of them are still flying, a few weeks ago they came with a 767-200ER to BRU as replacement for their 763ER
Was that not Continental ?

Danny

No, one of the 763ER had a technical problem in JFK. The replacement was a 762ER.

CO indeed changed last Saturday also to a 762ER instead of a 764ER but that had nothing to do with a technical problem.

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 08 Apr 2005, 10:41

Back to the Miami point....

There is a major issue with using the US as a transit point to any country outside the US nowadays and thats the immigration problem. Now that you have to go through US immigration (and may require a visa) to connect to a flight going to say, Costa Rica it has been said that the US airlines are losing money. I can see that - US immigration is a nightmare even before 9/11 but at least you could get a transit visa if required.

Even if you don;t require a visa why would you put yourself through that (immigration)if you didn't have to? For example - on a trip to Ecuador a few yrs ago we had two choices....with similar total travel times.

First, and cheapest, was Continental ABZ - LGW - IAH (immigration is nasty there as all the Euro flights arrive within 20mins of eachother) and then onto UIO.

OR

Second, KLM ABZ - AMS - UIO (admittedly with stops in Curacao and Guayaquil). THe fact there was no immigration queue to stand in for up to 2 hrs made the decision easy even though it cost a lot more.

I just think Martinair is brave putting a hub in Miami as I suspect the visa issue is one of the reason IB pulled the plug....

Post by **Bruspotter** » 08 Apr 2005, 14:51

Hello

As Brubiac said:

Some of them are still flying, a few weeks ago they came with a 767-200ER to BRU as replacement for their 763ER

Idd I was thinking that they stilll had a very small amount of 762's , but I know lot of them are out of service by now...too bad.

So that I guess it must be done with a extra 763 , still smaller as a 333 wich would be a too big waste of money???

And maybe if it gets really busy on that route they might use a 772 8)

Best regards: Yannick

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 08 Apr 2005, 17:54

Continental Airlines announced that it will launch daily nonstop flights between its New York hub at Newark Liberty International Airport and New Delhi, India beginning Oct. 31, 2005 subject to government approval.

sn-remember · Post by **sn-remember** » 09 Apr 2005, 18:33

at Jense:

@ Bruspotter: the 752 can't operate MIA-BRU as it's a lot out of it's range.

I think the B757 is used on some North-Atantic routes although I can't name any current operator..Anybody can help me?
(I think Skyservice Airlines is planning this summer a Toronto-London route using B757 correct me if I am wrong)
I am asking this because I reckon the B757 to be a solid candidate for thin-flow medium to long haul business routes that so many smaller operators are cherishing.
Snba wake up !