regi wrote:It is sad that such a highly educated people as AF pilots do such a stupid things. There is no learning curve, the slightiest mistake makes 2 holes in the ground: the grave and the impact.
There is no room for fun and jokes with that equipment. Remember that I knew several victims of the Cavalese massacre in 1998.
Regi - this was a demonstration, not a stunt. The pilots were VERY highly experienced and never encouraged others to try to replicate the demonstration.
Suppose a Bugatti Veyron test driver takes the car up to its top speed of 408.00 km/h (253.52 mph) as a demonstration of the car's capabilities. And suppose, new and less experienced Bugatti drivers watch the demonstration and dream of repeating it. No one in their right mind would agree that these lesser experienced drivers should attempt it.
You may recall several similar aviation demonstrations a number of years ago. One of the best test/demonstration pilots ever was Bob Hoover. He did a number of extreme demonstrations in both civilian and military aircraft, but one that was most spectacular is on YouTube - see:
This is an example of such excellent flying. No one would recommend a lesser pilot to repeat this. Check it out.
Please get it through your mind – these are demonstrations of an aircraft’s envelope capabilities and are intended to instill confidence in the aircraft’s abilities, not a show-off stunt to encourage others to follow!
regi wrote:It is sad that such a highly educated people as AF pilots do such a stupid things. There is no learning curve, the slightiest mistake makes 2 holes in the ground: the grave and the impact.
There is no room for fun and jokes with that equipment. Remember that I knew several victims of the Cavalese massacre in 1998.
Regi - this was a demonstration, not a stunt. The pilots were VERY highly experienced and never encouraged others to try to replicate the demonstration.
Suppose a Bugatti Veyron test driver takes the car up to its top speed of 408.00 km/h (253.52 mph) as a demonstration of the car's capabilities. And suppose, new and less experienced Bugatti drivers watch the demonstration and dream of repeating it. No one in their right mind would agree that these lesser experienced drivers should attempt it.
You may recall several similar aviation demonstrations a number of years ago. One of the best test/demonstration pilots ever was Bob Hoover. He did a number of extreme demonstrations in both civilian and military aircraft, but one that was most spectacular is on YouTube - see:
This is an example of such excellent flying. No one would recommend a lesser pilot to repeat this. Check it out.
Please get it through your mind – these are demonstrations of an aircraft’s envelope capabilities and are intended to instill confidence in the aircraft’s abilities, not a show-off stunt to encourage others to follow!
I was not referring to the demonstration, but at the reckless behaviour of those who thought they could do the same trick.
regi wrote: the slightiest mistake makes 2 holes in the ground: the grave and the impact.
There is no room for fun and jokes with that equipment.
I'm sure you didn't wanted to be funny here, but your retort sound a bit like in "the good,the bad and the ugly" spaghetti's movie style!
No, no joke. It refers to the fact that a human life was lost but also a strategic and expensive piece of equipment.
By the way, I have seen several results of aircraft accidents and I can tell you that the image is beyond what you can imagine. The speed , rotating metal and fire contribute to a sight and smell that is difficult to discribe.
Some people still suffer mentally after what they endured during the Ostend Airshow disaster.
The Tarom 371 crash with many Best Tours tourists on board crashed so deeply in the soil that most of the remains could not be identified.
I have seen several airplane crashes; not big crashes, but still I've handled the bodies and they are not pretty.
As a smokejumper in the US West (Idaho and Montana), we'd parachute into rugged mountainous areas to put out forest fires. And.... when plane crashes occurred (these were generally small single and twin engine crashes), we'd parachute in and extinguish the fire to prevent it from spreading and then bag the bodies. I remember one night (about 2 AM) sitting on a body bag eating a can of cold beans and thinking "How did I ever get here?” Still, it was probably one of the best jobs I ever had (and I’ve had some good ones in R&D and international marketing). One former jumper who went to the moon on Apollo 14 told a mutual friend (he was dying of cancer at the time), that jumping was the best job he’d ever had.
smokejumper wrote:Regi:
I have seen several airplane crashes; not big crashes, but still I've handled the bodies and they are not pretty.
As a smokejumper in the US West (Idaho and Montana), we'd parachute into rugged mountainous areas to put out forest fires. And.... when plane crashes occurred (these were generally small single and twin engine crashes), we'd parachute in and extinguish the fire to prevent it from spreading and then bag the bodies. I remember one night (about 2 AM) sitting on a body bag eating a can of cold beans and thinking "How did I ever get here?” Still, it was probably one of the best jobs I ever had (and I’ve had some good ones in R&D and international marketing). One former jumper who went to the moon on Apollo 14 told a mutual friend (he was dying of cancer at the time), that jumping was the best job he’d ever had.
I agree with the fact that the mental impact of such situations differs from person to person. Strange thing is that nobody is immune. I have some friends in the military. After gruesome experiences in Africa, they could still talk about it as a football game. But some of them cracked later on in different situations. Age, stress, heart problems, I don't know. Just 1 example: a para who was in the middle of the attrocities of Ruanda snapped in Kosovo because of a minor road accident. He is on medical leave, and he seems unable to get out of the tunnel.
