Aircraft orders at Farnborough 2010

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Bombardier sells 7 Q400s to Qantas.

[RoMax]

Updated:

Boeing: 131 firm orders (209 of wich 78 previous "unidentified customer" orders)
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 75 MoU's (260 of wich 75 MoU's and 52 previous counted orders)
Embraer: 42 firm orders + 15 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 42 firm orders
ATR: 39 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

[regi]

Sukhoi said it got another order from Orient Thai Airlines for 12 SSJ's.

Air Lease Corporation has signed a letter of intent for 15 Embraer 190s and 5 more options. If the deal is firmed up, deliveries will begin in July 2011. Beyond the 15 aircraft, the agreement also includes five options. So not a firm order as noted before.

Boeing: 121 firm orders (154 of wich 33 previous "unidentified customer" orders)
Airbus: 122 firm orders + 75 MoU's
Embraer: 42 firm orders + 15 LoI
Bombardier: 3 firm orders
Sukhoi: 42 firm orders
ATR: 39 firm orders

aha, Mr. Udom finally buys new airplanes. He has probably drawn his conclusions out of the MD crash at Phuket ( OK, wind shear, but maybe avoidable with a more modern aircraft with warning system )
The 12 Sukhois will do a good job locally in Thailand.
He goes in frontal attack with Airasia and Nokair.

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Thai signed a MoU with Airbus for 7 Airbus A330-300's.

Qatar Airways have exercised options for 2 B777s. But it's still not officially known for wich type, some say -200ER but it will probably be the -200LR. But its also not yet known if it is a new order or a previous "unidentified customer".

And Sukhoi scored again, Bermuda-based leasing company Pearl Aircraft Corp. placed an order for 30 SSJ100's and 15 more options.

Boeing: 131 firm orders (209 of wich 78 previous "unidentified customer" orders)
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 82 MoU's (267 of wich 82 MoU's and 52 previous counted orders)
Embraer: 42 firm orders + 15 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 72 firm orders
ATR: 39 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

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Qatar Airways have exercised options for 2 B777s. But it's still not officially known for wich type, some say -200ER but it will probably be the -200LR. But its also not yet known if it is a new order or a previous "unidentified customer".

Now it's clear. Qatar Airways replaced two options by two firm order for the B777-200LR and they took another 3 options. The order was previously noted as "unidentified customer".

ALAFCO converted their 12 orders for A350-800s into 12 orders for the bigger A350-900.

Boeing: 131 firm orders (211 of wich 80 previous "unidentified customer" orders)
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 82 MoU's (267 of wich 82 MoU's and 52 previous counted orders)
Embraer: 42 firm orders + 15 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 72 firm orders
ATR: 39 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

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Qatar Airways have exercised options for 2 B777s. But it's still not officially known for wich type, some say -200ER but it will probably be the -200LR. But its also not yet known if it is a new order or a previous "unidentified customer".

It is indeed the 777-200LR, for a previously unidentified customer, thus not a new order.

Furthermore, Okay Airlines, the first private airline of China, finalises the order for 10 B737-800s.

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It is indeed the 777-200LR, for a previously unidentified customer, thus not a new order.

Furthermore, Okay Airlines, the first private airline of China, finalises the order for 10 B737-800s.

For the QR order, I was just before you.
I also mentionned the Okay Airlines order previously.
The currently totals of my previous post are the most updated.

[earthman]

Could someone do a quick calculation of the monetary value (using list prices, I suppose) of all these orders?

[RoMax]

Could someone do a quick calculation of the monetary value (using list prices, I suppose) of all these orders?

If you want to make your own calculation you may do that...but I don't start with that.

I recently heard it went over the $25 billion in total. But I don't know if all orders are already included. This will rise with some more billions, but nobody expects anything close to the record of Farnborough 2008 with 88.7 billion. But this 25 billion is already way above the 7 billion of Paris Airshow 2009.
But this is catalog price, so the actual value is always lower because big orders mostly get big reductions.

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The Okay Airways order ( 10 B 738) was also an order wich was already noted by Boeing as unidentified.

American Airlines orders 35 B738's. These are options of a previous order in 2009 converted in firm orders. American said they will have 195 737-800's by the end of 2012. These 738's are replacing the oldest MD80's.

Boeing said it will probably increase their internal order forecast for this year for the 3th time. Their internal order forecast for this year was already increased two times, but the orders are coming fast and Boeing didn't expected that. The market is recovering faster than Boeing (and Airbus) expected they say.

Republic Airlines has signed a letter of intent to buy 24 more Embraer 190 jets.

Qatar Airways is urging Airbus to quickly decide on its A330 cargo conversion strategy or risk losing its business to Boeing. But Airbus is afraid of cannibalising the market for the new-build A330-200 Freighter.
QR wants to convert their oldest A330's as the 788's are starting to arrive end 2011 and they will replace these older A330's.
QR CEO (the famous Akbar Al Baker) said: ""We are talking to Airbus about conversions and if we have no option from them, then we will have to look to Boeing to supply us converted freighters, either 777-200s or 767s, and I'm sure Boeing will oblige." He also said he will absolutly not order the factory new A332F's.

Boeing: 156 firm orders (246 of wich 90 previous "unidentified customer" orders)
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 82 MoU's (267 of wich 82 MoU's and 52 previous counted orders)
Embraer: 42 firm orders + 39 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 72 firm orders
ATR: 39 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

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First order on this 4th day of the airshow: Boeing and Azerbaijan Airlines have signed an agreement to substitute two 737-800 airplanes for one 767-300ER (extended range) and two 767 Freighters. All benefit for Boeing!

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First order on this 4th day of the airshow: Boeing and Azerbaijan Airlines have signed an agreement to substitute two 737-800 airplanes for one 767-300ER (extended range) and two 767 Freighters. All benefit for Boeing!

So if I understand well, actual 1 more order (1 pax, 2 F's) but off course of much higher value. It was already mentionned on the O&D sheat of Boeing, but still nice to know that the B763 can still get some new pax orders (LAN, ANA, JAL, Azerbaijan and maybe more are flying some pretty new 767's).

I also discovered that the Orient Thai order is not yet a firm order, it's a LoI. A firm order should be signed later this year they said.

Also Gazpromavia signed a letter of Intent for ten SSJ's.

Some minor changes to the totals, because I discoverred some little mistakes:

Boeing: 156 firm orders + 90 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 82 MoU's + 52 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Embraer: 55 firm orders + 24 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 60 firm orders+ 22 LoI
ATR: 34 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

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Virgin America orders 40 A320 (with sharklets) plus options (non-binding MoU).

Said Richard Branson: "I am happy to celebrate my 60th birthday this week and I can't think of a better present than getting 60 new planes" ...!

[RoMax]

Update:

Boeing: 156 firm orders + 90 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 122 MoU's + 52 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Embraer: 55 firm orders + 24 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 60 firm orders+ 22 LoI
ATR: 34 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders

Hopefully we'll still see some A380, A350, B787 orders...

[RoMax]

A surprising order:
The Malaysian investinggroup Crecom Burj Resources confirmed an order for 50 MC-21's. The airplanes should be deliverd from 2016. It will be 25 MC-21-200's (150 passengers) and 25 MC-21-300's (181 passengers). Airliners in South East Asia would be interrested in leasing these MC-21's.
The MC-21 is currently in development with Irkut Corporation and is sheduled to make his first flight in 2014. It's the russian awnser on the B737 and A320.

Boeing: 156 firm orders + 90 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Airbus: 133 firm orders + 122 MoU's + 52 previously booked as an unidentified customer
Embraer: 55 firm orders + 24 LoI
Bombardier: 20 firm orders
Sukhoi: 60 firm orders+ 22 LoI
ATR: 34 firm orders
Antonov: 10 firm orders
Irkut Corporation: 50 firm orders

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Nor really a new order, but a funny quote of Airbus CEO Enders commenting the presence of the 787 vs the A400M: "We bring aircraft to air shows to fly them, they (Boeing) bring them to park them".

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Nor really a new order, but a funny quote of Airbus CEO Enders commenting the presence of the 787 vs the A400M: "We bring aircraft to air shows to fly them, they (Boeing) bring them to park them".

The only thing I could say is: know your priorities. If Airbus like enjoying the public, than they must do that. But Boeing gives priority to lead customers/future users/journalists/... around the aircraft and hold it for only a few days at the airshow to resume testing after that. They cancelled the plan to send the 748 to Farnborough to stay testing.
Airbus should do the same with their 4 years delayed and 50% over budget, A400M wich is send all over Europe to enjoy the public (the weekend before Farnborough he also did flying displays).

[RoMax]

Airbus released a press release with all their orders, MoU's at Farnborough. I don't know if this is the end of their orders at the airshow, but it's possible. They have a press conferention later today, so maybe some A350's or A380's to end the show glorious or just a summary of al their orders this week.

Signalling a clear upturn in the aviation industry, Airbus announced commitments at the 2010 Farnborough Air Show for 255 aircraft, valued at around US$28 billion. The commitments so far include firm orders for 133 aircraft worth more than $13 billion, plus memorandum of understanding (MoU) agreements for a further 122 aircraft totalling around $15 billion.

The firm orders at the show came from GECAS for 60 A320s worth around $4.9 billion; from Air Lease Corporation for 51 A320 Family aircraft worth $4.4 billion; from Aeroflot for 11 A330-300s worth $2.3 billion; from Garuda Indonesia for six A330-200s worth $1.2 billion; and from Germania for five A319s worth $372 million.

The MoU commitments included: 40 A320s plus 10 A321s together worth $4.2 billion from LAN; 10 A330-200s worth $1.9 billion plus 15 A350 XWBs worth $3.8 billion from Hong Kong Airlines; 40 A320s worth $3.3 billion from Virgin America; and seven A330-300s worth $1.5 billion from Thai Airways International.

John Leahy, Chief Operating Officer, Customers commented: “Before the Farnborough Air Show we already had 131 orders, and we predicted that by the end of the week we’d double that. Indeed, the commitments which we have already received here, bring our total firm orders this year already to over 260 aircraft.” He adds: “This clearly proves that the market is back, and that our new end of year target for over 400 orders is within reach.”

Airbus’ success is founded on innovative design, which has given it the world’s most modern aircraft family in every category from 100 to 525 seats

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Airbus made their own calculation (see previous post). Reuters did it for Boeing: adding up net new orders provisionally makes it 147 planes worth $11,5 billion for Boeing, excluding previous unidentifieds:

Excluding orders previously on book, Boeing client announcements:

• Gecas 40 738,
• Norwegian Air Shuttle 15 738,
• Air Lease 54 738,
• American Airlines 35 738
• Azerbaijan Airlines 1 763ER and 2 76F

Reuters also recalculated the Airbus totals. Firm new Airbus orders:

• Air Lease 51 A320-family,
• Aeroflot 11 A330-300,
• GECAS 60 A320 series,
• Garuda 3 A330-200 (not 6: 3 were already in the books as unidentified),
• Germania 5 A319

Aviation Week has different numbers (how is it possible?):

Firm orders, Boeing 197, Airbus 189.
With MOUs & orders confirmed early: Airbus 309, Boeing 214.

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It's just very confusing with all the new firm orders, firm orders previously noted, MoU's, LoI's, options, purchase rights... If you don't follow it well, you make mistakes.

Airbus has 133 new firm orders, and combined with the MoU's/... they have 255. If you look at my totals, you can see the same: 133 new orders, 122 MoU's.
So the Airbus numbers are correct and I'm glad I calculated all orders well as I had calculated the same numbers.

But we need to take a look again at the Boeing numbers. Reuters made some mistakes and I don't.

• Gecas 40 738,
• Norwegian Air Shuttle 15 738,
• Air Lease 54 738,
• American Airlines 35 738
• Azerbaijan Airlines 1 763ER and 2 76F

Gecas, Norwegian, Air Lease Corp., American, Azerbaijan: correct
But they forgot one order: Emirates. They placed an order for 30 777's, 18 previously noted but 12 new orders!

That makes 157 new firm orders for Boeing.

Conclusion: We got some nice orders altough not that much widebody's. But we are just recovering from a financial crisis, so we should be very happy.