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true but that counts for thai as well i think.fretn wrote: About Sia that's another thing, the brand has zero recognition in Belgium, most (non-aviation) people over here would think that they're a crappy airline based on their name alone.
have you seen that EK flies to schiphol, paris, dusseldorf & heathrow...mitsuo.namen wrote:SQ and TG are well known and strong brands.
i don't know if the plane will be full.... tickets are expansive with them.
What about yields? not great i think.
If TG or SQ don't want to fly here in the future, the best solution is a double daily EK in the future. You can go everywhere in Asia via Dubai
that's what i thought, most of the belgian people are a bit "wereldvreemd", most of them go out to turkey, egypt, the canary islands or spain in most cases (the places where jetairfly/thomas cook fly too).cnc wrote:true but that counts for thai as well i think.fretn wrote: About Sia that's another thing, the brand has zero recognition in Belgium, most (non-aviation) people over here would think that they're a crappy airline based on their name alone.
hell most people i know who travel with jetair/sunjets don't even know they flew with a plane from JETAIRFLY
Same with TG, SQ,... What can we do?fretn wrote:have you seen that EK flies to schiphol, paris, dusseldorf & heathrow...mitsuo.namen wrote:SQ and TG are well known and strong brands.
i don't know if the plane will be full.... tickets are expansive with them.
What about yields? not great i think.
If TG or SQ don't want to fly here in the future, the best solution is a double daily EK in the future. You can go everywhere in Asia via Dubai
the chance they are coming to brussels in the near future is very small.
hoping that brussels airlines expands & becomes an attractive partner for these airlines.mitsuo.namen wrote:Same with TG, SQ,... What can we do?fretn wrote:have you seen that EK flies to schiphol, paris, dusseldorf & heathrow...mitsuo.namen wrote:SQ and TG are well known and strong brands.
i don't know if the plane will be full.... tickets are expansive with them.
What about yields? not great i think.
If TG or SQ don't want to fly here in the future, the best solution is a double daily EK in the future. You can go everywhere in Asia via Dubai
the chance they are coming to brussels in the near future is very small.
I guess the BKK market from BRU is primarely a tourist market, so yields cannot be to high, but there is no need to fly daily, neither.mitsuo.namen wrote:SQ and TG are well known and strong brands.
i don't know if the plane will be full.... tickets are expansive with them.
What about yields? not great i think.
If TG or SQ don't want to fly here in the future, the best solution is a double daily EK in the future. You can go everywhere in Asia via Dubai
Wow wait a second. BRU is indeed a secondary airport, no problem with that. We know that and it will stay like that.rolibkk wrote:Well, as simple as that - if there would be a market between DXB or DOH and BRU, then EK and QR would for sure fly to BRU, or SN Brussels would serve these destinations.
But is shows that BRU is just a secondary/niche market - just compare it with e.g. ZRH where EK has flights twice a day and SQ is going to start A380 flights next month.
Small correction, Airbus is sending an A380 to ZRH to certificate the airport for the A380.Atlantis wrote:Wow wait a second. BRU is indeed a secondary airport, no problem with that. We know that and it will stay like that.rolibkk wrote:Well, as simple as that - if there would be a market between DXB or DOH and BRU, then EK and QR would for sure fly to BRU, or SN Brussels would serve these destinations.
But is shows that BRU is just a secondary/niche market - just compare it with e.g. ZRH where EK has flights twice a day and SQ is going to start A380 flights next month.
But when you are going to compare with other airports, you have to do it right.
At this moment there are flying two daily B777 of SIA to ZRH. The average load factor is 65% and on certain days 50%. If you find this good, hmmm.
SIA's opinion is that this is not good for a long haul destination and that's why they are going to use their A380 on this route because they are going to reduce the number of flights with 5! They will only fly daily.
+ only a few European airports are accomodated to receive an A380. ZRH isn't so that's why SIA have to send an empty A380 to ZRH to do some tests.
). Swiss stopped the routes past year. 12x278 is a total of 3336 weekly seats between SIN-ZRH one way on the B773, for the A380: 7x471 is a total of 3297 weekly seats one way. That's only 39 seats less, a bit more economy seats but less business and first class seats. Don´t forget CDG...MR_Boeing wrote: With DUS and AMS, is it, even for EK, to difficult to fly between Dubai and BRU.
If SQ is using A380 to an airport like ZRH, I start to beleive again in the future of the airplane: SIN ZRH is not a trunckroute...Atlantis wrote:At this moment there are flying two daily B777 of SIA to ZRH. The average load factor is 65% and on certain days 50%. If you find this good, hmmm.
SIA's opinion is that this is not good for a long haul destination and that's why they are going to use their A380 on this route because they are going to reduce the number of flights with 5! They will only fly daily.
+ only a few European airports are accomodated to receive an A380. ZRH isn't so that's why SIA have to send an empty A380 to ZRH to do some tests.
I didn´t know they also apply for slots for Summer 2010. They did for Summer 2009 and Winter 2009-2010. Anyway if they applied they´re returned (as usual). I don´t think we´ll see SN anytime at AMS in the (near) futureMR_Boeing wrote: (ps: Talking about AMS, what about the slots that SN asked at AMS for comming summer? Are they returned too, or would SN really start this route?)
