What will happen to the BRU C-pier?

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:34

I think you're right OO-VEX. As far as I know they've been working for quite a long time around the end of Rnwy 02 for the TGV/HST.

Greetz
Chris
8)

Post by **Bottie** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:50

Avro wrote:I think you're right OO-VEX. As far as I know they've been working for quite a long time around the end of Rnwy 02 for the TGV/HST.

Greetz
Chris
8)

@RED there is also a construction site now

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:53

Bottie wrote:
Avro wrote:I think you're right OO-VEX. As far as I know they've been working for quite a long time around the end of Rnwy 02 for the TGV/HST.

Greetz
Chris
8)
@RED there is also a construction site now

Aaaaah, are that the works @ the Mosselbank etc... ?
That is probably the reason that I couldn't get there...

greettzzz

Post by **Bottie** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:58

Jense wrote:
Bottie wrote:
Avro wrote:I think you're right OO-VEX. As far as I know they've been working for quite a long time around the end of Rnwy 02 for the TGV/HST.

Greetz
Chris
8)
@RED there is also a construction site now
Aaaaah, are that the works @ the Mosselbank etc... ?
That is probably the reason that I couldn't get there...

greettzzz

inderdeed

Post by **sn26567** » 18 Mar 2004, 16:06

If the HST works are at the beginning of Rwy 02, what are the works at the beginning of Rwy07L ?

Post by **Bottie** » 18 Mar 2004, 16:13

Jense wrote:
Bottie wrote:
Avro wrote:I think you're right OO-VEX. As far as I know they've been working for quite a long time around the end of Rnwy 02 for the TGV/HST.

Greetz
Chris
8)
@RED there is also a construction site now
Aaaaah, are that the works @ the Mosselbank etc... ?
That is probably the reason that I couldn't get there...

greettzzz

see https://www.aviation24.be/postt3967.html for more messages about the "mosselbank-construction-site"

yannickvw · Post by **yannickvw** » 18 Mar 2004, 18:58

@ ATC

"hhhmmmm...intresting...
I think you mean the A pier ... "

Yes, indeed, that's what I mean. Sorry I'm not that familiar with the airport

...

Now we're talking about aerial photographs, does someone has any pictures when Zaventem had still the fourth runway 12-30? Or other aerial pictures/maps from the 60's/70's/80's and the early nineties, before the construction works of pier B?

Regards,
Yannick

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 18 Mar 2004, 19:00

sn26567 wrote:If the HST works are at the beginning of Rwy 02, what are the works at the beginning of Rwy07L ?

Maybe to connect Antwerp (Thalys) direct with Brussels Airport?
The 'middenberm' on the E19 (Antwerp-Brussels) will be replaced by the rails of the HST in a few years

greettzzz

Airborne · Post by **Airborne** » 18 Mar 2004, 23:58

I looked it up in my personal archive and found this in an old newspaper article:

Growing Fast
Pierre Klees, president of BIAC: "In the longer term, we will renovate the old airport terminal, demolish the old south pier and finally we will construct a third pier, pier C."

Greetzzz,
Kristof

Post by **sn26567** » 19 Mar 2004, 10:04

Jense wrote:The 'middenberm' on the E19 (Antwerp-Brussels) will be replaced by the rails of the HST in a few years

Certainly not! There will be no HST track between Brussels and Antwerp, only existing track will be adapted for higher speed (160-200 km/hr).

What is probably true is that a small part of the central berm of E19 between Mechelen and Brussels will be used to make a track connecting the existing track to the airport.

sab319 · Post by **sab319** » 19 Mar 2004, 21:01

yannickvw wrote: Now we're talking about aerial photographs, does someone has any pictures when Zaventem had still the fourth runway 12-30? Or other aerial pictures/maps from the 60's/70's/80's and the early nineties, before the construction works of pier B?

Regards,
Yannick

Did Zaventem have A fourth runway!? Never heard that before, I hope it's not an "1 april grap"!

qnnm · Post by **qnnm** » 19 Mar 2004, 21:09

Zaventem's 4th rwy:
12/30 2504m x 45m
pure memories...but reality !

Jense · Post by **Jense** » 19 Mar 2004, 21:16

sn26567 wrote:
Jense wrote:The 'middenberm' on the E19 (Antwerp-Brussels) will be replaced by the rails of the HST in a few years
Certainly not! There will be no HST track between Brussels and Antwerp, only existing track will be adapted for higher speed (160-200 km/hr).

I'm becoming stupid

greettzzz

Post by **sn26567** » 21 Mar 2004, 17:57

qnnm wrote:Zaventem's 4th rwy:
12/30 2504m x 45m
pure memories...but reality !

I perfectly remember 12/30. BRU had two parallel runways 07/25, and between them two runways forming a cross: 02/20 and 12/30.

Part of 12/30 still exists: take 25L; after some 300 m, there is a large taxiway to the right: that was the beginning of 30. The end has been demolished to make place for Piers A and B.

Established02 · Post by **Established02** » 21 Mar 2004, 18:34

> I perfectly remember 12/30.

In what year did they stop using this runway? In the early seventies?

What were the main reasons for it's closure?

Did it have an ILS?

Having kept runway 12/30 operational might have eased the current conflict over the night flights above Brussels / Noordrand / Oostrand.

Thanks

Established02

yannickvw · Post by **yannickvw** » 27 Mar 2004, 18:25

12/30 was completed in '61 and was 2392m long. It wasn't used very much because the wind comes rarely from the northwest. When the BAF began to use Starfighters at Bevekom, 12/30 was abandoned for good, since the approach route crossed military air space, moreover, Grimbergen airfield could also not be used if it was in service.

Actually there were 2 12/30's. And also cool to know, before the 25R of today, there was another one, lying a bit more in souther direction.

It would be really great to see some old photo's or maps from it!!!!! Anybody has some in his/her archive??

vflies · Post by **vflies** » 27 Mar 2004, 18:35

WOW so many things to learn...
Thank you for all those interesting info!

VFlies

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 27 Mar 2004, 19:06

Thanks a lot for this great history lesson yannickvw

Chris