Boeing and Airbus orders

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 30 Jun 2006, 08:43

SkyEurope placed an order for five Next-Generation 737-700s with an estimated value of $295 million..this makes the total number of ordered 737NG's for SkyEurope 21.

Article can be found here: http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid ... ID=5833409

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 03 Jul 2006, 12:03

Ryanair has bought 10 more b737-800's worth $ 700 mln. The ten aircraft are scheduled for delivery in march (3), april (4) and june (3) 2008 bringing the total orders of Ryanair to a staggering 249!

article

fleabyte · Post by **fleabyte** » 04 Jul 2006, 15:56

http://www.justplanes.com/

Do any of you folks recall around Jan 15 06 when Airbus made the grand announcement that they had beat Boeing for orders in 2005? That statement included orders for:

150 A320 to China carriers

100 A320 to some Asian Regional carrier that currently operates something like 7 regional jets (big expansion dreams)

100 A320 to another carrier operating a few A320's

booking 10 A380 but not debooking the 37 A300 that were simulatneously cancelled by UPS

Now Airbus is acting like they have received "new orders" from China Eastern and Air China.

I think it is ok, not prudent, to show huge orders to little carriers that have little fleets and big dreams, but on the china order thing........

Come on guys, you can claim an order one time in one year.

DFW · Post by **DFW** » 05 Jul 2006, 05:14

Maybe good ol' Noel and Gustav should have been more concerned with delivering airplanes than with bragging rights

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Stepha380 · Post by **Stepha380** » 05 Jul 2006, 10:04

100 A320 to some Asian Regional carrier that currently operates something like 7 regional jets (big expansion dreams)

The asian market has a bigger growth potential than any other part of the world. So why not, what was your reaction the first time you heard Ryanair and Easyjet big orders ?

booking 10 A380 but not debooking the 37 A300 that were simulatneously cancelled by UPS

You have said yourself the number

orders in 2005

the UPS A380 is a new order in 2005. I know it is tricky but it only changes the backlog, the 37 A300 where ordered in another financial year. The comparison has been made considering the number of units ordered in 2005, not the average value of orders, Boeing beat Airbus on this one.

Boeing will do exactly the same concerning the replacement by China eastern of 3 787 by 737. Wait and see.

I think it is ok

No it is not, you can't lie to the financial market.

fleabyte · Post by **fleabyte** » 07 Jul 2006, 00:43

Well,

Todays debooking by Boeing for Primaris of 20 787 and 30 737 shows that while Boeing was more conservative, they put some crap in their booking total for 2005.

The Ryanair and Easyjet carriers started small and modest ordering, just like Southwest and GOL, and built up their fleets as they went, until they became the monsters they are today.

My point about UPS is that the "orders" race is for Net orders, not Gross orders. So the 37 A300 should be a 2005 debooking.

I think JustPlanes.com has a nice Net order 2005 tally, which changes as these Primaris orders are debooked. It has already accounted for the 787 debooking from the China Carrier.

Cheers,

Flea

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 07 Jul 2006, 08:45

China Southern Airlines Co., one of China's three biggest carriers, said Friday it has agreed to buy 50 Airbus A320 aircraft. Catalog price of the order is of $ 3.3 bn.

@ fleabyte:

This order, together with the China Eastern Airlines order for 30 a320's allready partially answers your question on the 150 a320's...

Regards,
Tom

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 07 Jul 2006, 08:47

Sorry, forgot to attach the article in my previous post...therfore you can find it here

Tom

Andries · Post by **Andries** » 20 Jul 2006, 23:56

Some Farnborough results :

Airbus :
3 A320's for Aegean (Source : Airbus.com)
6 A320's for ILFC (Source : Airbus.com)
20 A320's for WizzAir (Source : Airbus.com)
40 A320's for AirAsia (Source : Airbus.com)
5 A332's for CIT (Source : Airbus.com)
12 A332's for Grupo Marsans (Source : Airbus.com)

Boeing :
6 B738's for ILFC (Source : Boeing.com)
14 B738's for ACG (Source : Boeing.com)
30 B739ER's for Lion Air (Source : Boeing.com)
2 B744ERF's for LoadAir (Source : Boeing.com)
2 B773ER's for ILFC (Source : Boeing.com)
2 B788's for Pegasus (on top of the 4 allready ordered by Blue panorama) (Source : Boeing.com)
2 B787's for ILFC (Source : Boeing.com)

If I forgot some, please post it in a reply !
The main stats at the beginning of this topic will be updated.

Greetz,

Andries

beaucaire · Post by **beaucaire** » 21 Jul 2006, 07:37

9 x A32X, 3 x A332 from Afriqiyah Airways

PYX · Post by **PYX** » 21 Jul 2006, 07:54

10 B747-8 Freighters for Emirates SkyCargo.

4 B777 Freighters for Flyington Freighters.

David747 · Post by **David747** » 22 Jul 2006, 17:22

RC20 wrote:I like the way Boeing handles it, they simply list firm orders on their site.

As the Qatar Airways "order" shows, Boeing it seems counts phantom orders on its website.

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 24 Jul 2006, 12:45

I smell a need for a regulating code of conduct here!

Aviation24.be

Boeing and Airbus orders

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