Biman: new aircraft and stopping non-profitable routes

fokker_f27 · Post by **fokker_f27** » 06 Dec 2005, 19:44

Biman needs a new livery, but flowers don't look good on aircraft.

dc1030 · Post by **dc1030** » 07 Dec 2005, 19:42

Nothing will change with biman ,unless they buy new aircraft and strengthen its management team . i hope the government of Bangladesh decides soon on the new aircrafts.

regi · Post by **regi** » 08 Dec 2005, 10:10

Yes right, exactly what is wrong about Biman: the planes, the managment, the government. Just change that lot and you get a better airline. Simple? See Olympic, Alitalia, Sabena,...

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 08 Dec 2005, 11:27

The financial situation of Bangladesh is bad, very bad. Although Biman OPS will love to have new planes, they cannot afford to lease or buy them. Their country has other priorities. As long as there are DC-10's for sale, they should remain with them. And calculate long delays and cxls every now and them.

Also, once they have new planes, they will have to increase their rates, and there will then be no major price difference between them and AA/DL. If pax have to pay 329 euro with DL and 309 with BG, they will probably buy the DL ticket.

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 10 Dec 2005, 11:53

Seems they have another cancellation today:

www.biac.be/arrivals says BG011 coming from Dhaka via Dubai is cancelled (scheduled arrival was 17h40 on Saturday late afternoon)

www.biac.be/departures says BG011 BRU-JFK for Saturday evening is cancelled, but also announced for 19h00??

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 10 Dec 2005, 13:07

The flight is cancelled. The note 19.00h was just to say he departs as scheduled, but this count anymore.

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 10 Dec 2005, 18:45

correct, today's incoming and outgoing BG flights are cancelled, and the plane will come in on Sunday morning:

www.biac.be/arrivals

arrival 10/12 Dhaka via Dubai BG011
. . scheduled 17:40
. . cancelled

arrival 11/12 Dhaka via Dubai BG011
. . scheduled 07:10

www.biac.be/departure

departure 10/12 New York BG011
. . scheduled 19:00
. . cancelled

departure 11/12 New York BG011
. . scheduled 08:00

The DC-10 is coming in from Dubai at 07h10, and it's supposed to take off for JFK at 08h00. Congratulations to the station manager if he realises the turnaround in 50 minutes!

regi · Post by **regi** » 11 Dec 2005, 18:39

Lucky enough there is Biman. Otherwise it would be a boring world.

fokker_f27 · Post by **fokker_f27** » 11 Dec 2005, 21:34

If they are gonna leave BRU, I'm gonna miss them fly over on the hot summer days...

dc1030 · Post by **dc1030** » 15 Dec 2005, 20:11

I I have flown biman a lot of times, their in flight service is ok, but the problem is its frequent delays. It also needs to restructure its domestic sector; most of the flights are nearly empty. I feel they need to go for smaller aircraft and cheaper ticket prices that will enable them to offer more services to local passengers and Bangladeshis that travel from foreign countries on biman, most of them hate the long wait for connecting flights. However, there is one more aspect that they need to consider, whatever aircraft that they choose, it needs to have enough baggage room, because most Bangladeshis that travel biman from foreign countries usually have a lot of baggage, they want to be able to receive them as soon as they get to their destinations, with the current fleet sometimes they don’t get them on time.

regi · Post by **regi** » 16 Dec 2005, 09:14

Without becoming racial about bengali people, I would like to add something about the luggage thing. If there is a luggage restriction, people have to accept that. I understand that bengali people want to bring (old) stuff back home for the family. But the more luggage they are allowed to take on board, the more they will cross that limitation. In the end Biman will be a cargo carrier with old refrigerators on board.
When I flew Biman, I was surprised about bad behaviour -to western standards- by bengali people. At the check inn of business class a economy class passenger kept on nagging about allowing him in business class so he would not have to pay overweight luggage. But that is turning everything upside down.
However the main problem are not the passengers. It is the general mentality of the managment

regi · Post by **regi** » 16 Dec 2005, 09:19

Biman doesn't have to offer lower prices to domestic passengers. The government must allow private companies to operate low cost carriers, without interference of influential people who keep planes on the ground or even divert them so they can take a free ride.
The human resource department of such a private company must be able to enroll or discharge employees without interference of influential people.
Profits must be handled properly.
Biman itself should not be privatised. It would collapse in 1 day.

dc1030 · Post by **dc1030** » 16 Dec 2005, 20:50

low cost carriers is a great idea, however,i dont understand why biman would collaps in one day if it is privatised to the right company.Also,as i have mentioned earlier ,i have flown on biman a lot of times, and i also understand that a lot of passengers are unruly,but i am sure they dont carry old stuff.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 16 May 2006, 17:09

Biman Bangladesh decided to stop temporarily non-profitable flights to New York, Tokio, Paris, Frankfurt and Bangkok - Singapore.

One example: for each flight to New York they loose 80.000 euros.

Biman is looking to a strong partner to survive.

Source: asia news yahoo

fokker_f27 · Post by **fokker_f27** » 16 May 2006, 18:16

I'm really going to miss the Biman DC10... But if they loose that much on these routes, then they should really temporarily close these routes and wait until they can order more (new) long haul aircraft to serve the cities separately.

Vinnie-Winnie · Post by **Vinnie-Winnie** » 16 May 2006, 18:36

fokker_f27 wrote:I'm really going to miss the Biman DC10... But if they loose that much on these routes, then they should really temporairly close these routes and wait untill they can order more (new) long haul aircraft to serve the cities seperatly.

Hello non-existing SpellCheck button on your browser?

Well sometimes it pays to have loss-making routes! It can bring valuable foreign investment or tourism so it might not necessarily be a good thing to scrap all services!

Don't know though haven't read any reports that prove it for Bangladesh!

Could it be that Bengalis who live abroad are poorer than say Indians? Might explain why they are unable to get decent returns on their flights!

dc1030 · Post by **dc1030** » 17 May 2006, 03:05

bengalis fly back to their home country more than say indians,

and stop worrying about the economic status of banladeshies

,this is not something we should be worried about. also,most of the times it pays not to operate loss making routes,