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Post by OO-VEX »

Is Luchtzak banned by Google??

Here is an interesting article about Google, that bans sites which are against the rules. It seems to be forbidden to use techniques for improving the google search results of a website.

:arrow: http://www.standaard.be/nieuws/Economie ... D=GHVGRB72
(sorry, but only available in Dutch)

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Post by luchtzak »

OO-VEX,

don't know the reason yet, we have mailed google about this issue.

I don't use forbidden techniques to improve my search results in google, this must be an error and as soon as google knows luchtzak will be in the searchlists again. Hopefully...


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Post by bits44 »

I searched Google today, and the first listing at the top of the page was?


https://www.aviation24.be/


I wonder if the country edition of Google may make a difference?

maybe try Google Canada or U.S.A. or U.K.

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Post by SN30952 »

What is?
[FLASH] Luchtzak https://www.aviation24.be
Bestandsformaat: Shockwave Flash
Luchtzak https://www.aviation24.be.
www.replo.be/Luchtzak.swf - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Check Luchtzak also on Oxide
(it is in position 24, with criterion relevance)

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Bits,

I think that www.luchtzak.be is not first result but rather www.startplanet.be/out.php?ID=779

I don't know what's wrong with google nowadays :?

I have mailed them a second time with some extra explanations, hopefully they will read that mail very soon and re-enter www.luchtzak.be in their searches.

Meanwhile I discovered that somebody registered www.luchtzak.co.uk :roll:

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Post by bits44 »

Aha! your absolutely right, yet that link takes you directly to your home page????

www.startplanet.be/out.php?ID=779


could that be your servers ISP address?

when you Google search just " out.php?ID=779 "

you get the same result as " www.startplanet.be/out.php?ID=779 "

you might want to get your web master to check this out, it may be a hacked address?

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/13533/discuss


KT

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Post by bits44 »

I also found some more info. it looks like the url shown in google is actually an rss feed?

RSS feed URL: https://www.aviation24.be/backend.php

looks like google may have them mixed up with the normal url.

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Meanwhile google is looking further into this problem:
google wrote:Hi Bart,

Thank you for your reply. We understand your concern and have passed your
message on to our engineering team for further investigation.

We appreciate your patience.

Regards,
The Google Team

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luchtzak wrote:Meanwhile I discovered that somebody registered www.luchtzak.co.uk :roll:
I would not let that go. This is clearly abuse. They are using a well-known brand in order to advertise products that have nothing to do with aviation. You should write to the UK Advertising Board. Ask Trisha (VC10) to help.
André
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If they don't bother to answer your emails, then write to the CEO of the Google company. Their head office address is: 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. The only way to get a complaint sorted is to write to the top dog of the company, don't bother wasting time with minions. Get his name (Dr. Eric Schmidt
Chairman of the Executive Committee and Chief Executive Officer) and address your envelope "private and confidential". Tell him what the problem is and what you think of his company. Always works with VC10.
Sabena and Sobelair - gone but never forgotten.
Louise

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sn26567 wrote:
luchtzak wrote:Meanwhile I discovered that somebody registered www.luchtzak.co.uk :roll:
I would not let that go. This is clearly abuse. They are using a well-known brand in order to advertise products that have nothing to do with aviation. You should write to the UK Advertising Board. Ask Trisha (VC10) to help.
André,

www.luchtzak.be is not a trademark, legaly we can't do anything about this I guess :(

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Post by luchtzak »

https://www.aviation24.be/article9736.html

Daily we miss around 1000 to 1500 google search-visitors. The situation is not dramatic however worrying...

Reason for the google-ban is unknown to me, the only thing I get are these auto-mails:
Hi Bart,

Thank you for your reply. We understand your concern and have passed your
message on to our engineering team for further investigation.

We appreciate your patience.

Regards,
The Google Team
Hi Bart,

Thank you for your reply. We have passed your message on to our engineers
for review. Please note that we are unable to provide updates for
individual sites. If a change is made to the way your site is indexed, you
will see this change reflected in Google after some time. We are sorry we
cannot be of further assistance in this matter.

Regards,
The Google Team
Hi Bart,

Thank you for your reply. We strongly encourage you to review our
Webmaster Guidelines at www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html. If you
make changes to your site to comply with these guidelines, please let us
know.

Regards,
The Google Team
however google news is still active :roll:

I am posting my cry-for-help on a few webmaster-forums, hope I get a response of one of the members in the near future.

If one of you can help, all help welcome!

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I have copied this from Googles info centre, it may shed some light on the situation. I have also sent them an e-mail complaining about the dropping of the website, and strongly pointed out that Yahoo finds the site just as it always did.

KT


My webpages used to be listed and now they aren't.

1. I haven't changed anything, I promise.

Each time we update our database of webpages, our index shifts: we find new sites, we lose some sites, and sites' rankings change. If your site was dropped from Google and you haven't made major changes to it, we'll likely pick it up again soon. It's possible your site was temporarily inaccessible when our robots tried to crawl it.

You might check to see if the number of other sites that link to your URL has decreased. This is the single biggest factor in determining which sites are indexed by Google, as we find most pages when our robots crawl the web, jumping from page to page via hyperlinks. To find a sampling of sites that link to yours, try a Google link search.

If you're suddenly having trouble finding your site for certain keywords, it's possible that your site is still included in our search results, but that its placement decreased for these keywords. Reshuffling of our search results can occur when new sites are found and assigned a higher rank. No one at Google hand adjusts the results to boost the ranking of a site. The order of Google's search results is automatically determined by many factors, including our PageRank algorithm, and is described in more detail here. To determine if your site is still included in our index, perform a Google site search for your domain. For example, if you own yourdomain.com, you'd do a Google search for [ site:yourdomain.com ] to see an estimate of how many of your pages we index.

2. There may have been a problem on my end.

If your pages were unavailable when we try to crawl them because of network or hosting problems, this may explain why they're not included in our current index. When a page is unavailable, we try crawling it multiple times, but if we can't reach it, it won't be listed in our index. If this unavailability was a transient problem, your site will likely show up soon.

Alternately, your page may have been manually removed from our index if it didn't conform with the quality standards necessary to assign accurate PageRank. We won't comment on the individual reasons a page was removed, and we don't offer an exhaustive list of practices that can cause removal. However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be seen by search engines but not by users, or setting up pages/links with the sole purpose of fooling search engines may result in permanent removal from our index. You may want to review our Quality Guidelines for more guidance. If you think your site may fall into this category, you might try "cleaning up" the page and contacting us with a re-inclusion request. We don't make any guarantees about if or when we'll re-include your site.

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Post by AFApresident »

I found this on page 3 of google


www.luchtzak.com/site-map.html
Similar pages


and this one on page 4

www.luchtzak.com/postt437.html
Similar pages


(used google.com english)

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Post by luchtzak »

AFApresident,

thanks for checking but that's still not what it was before. I mailed google again, if those mails don't solve the problem I will have to fax or write a letter...

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This is scary

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It appears there may have been some changes to your domain:

I searched Google today! you are number one on the hit parade, however this is what appears as your address in the address bar:

http://www.luchtzak.com/index.html

no reference to www.luchtzak.be at all.

has your domain changed without you knowing it?

The site is identical to this one, except no one can post no moderators are present, no members are present, no guests are present.

Other than that it is absoulutly identical to the "be" site

VERY WEIRD

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Post by sn26567 »

Bart has registered www.luchtak.com in parallel with www.luchtzak.be. However .be is the preferred URL address. .com is only to prevent others from using the name (as it happened with www.luchtzak.co.uk)
André
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Post by bits44 »

I see, hopefully this will all be straightened out soon with Google.

Good Luck

KT

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Post by liebensd »

There are some results:

You can find this topic via google: http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=%22 ... eken&meta=


Greetz,

Dave

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