Guys please calm down a bit.
If we had to ban every airline that had a accident due to a failure at the plane then there wouldn't be a lot airliners left in the world.
Yes Kallita's loses an engine but who says this was due to the fact that their was bad maintenance, the pylons for the engines are design to brake off once to much force is used at them, for example due to heavy turbulence or other movements.
Rember the EL AL 747 the crash near AMS in the nighties? This one also crashed due to engines that fell of the plane. Should we ban EL AL from the skies then? No, a good research was done and EL AL improved a lot of their procedures.
I'm sure also MK, Kallita or whatever other company would do this. Keep in mind that it's never a company's intentions to risk the lives of their personal.
Every airline that flies into Europe must comply with tight regulations and their aircraft have regular inspections by the authorities in the country's the planes are flying.
Best Regards,
Yvo
Phuket Air plane at Sharjah case
Moderator: Latest news team
It is very comforting to read your comments how wrong the passengers are and that the planes are safe, etcetera.
Since you are all true professionnals I can only say that the passengers were not happy about this flights.
I can add only their comments from the website all known to us.
Phuket Air - by E Wrynn
6 April 2005
BKK-LGW with Phuket Air on 04-05-05 - total chaos!! Passengers on plane before us would not get back on plane, after re-fueling at Sharjah - because of the "minor problem" of fuel leaking out of the engine! We flew in 2 days later, to find them still waiting at Sharjah for our plane to pick them up. Bit of a problem though, our plane was also leaking fluid from the engine (different plane). Waited in Sharjah for 16 hrs for the muppets to fix the plane (well kind of fix it). Don't fly with them - Dangerous !!
Phuket Air - by Adam Benjamin
6 April 2005
I have just arrived back in the UK after the journey from hell, the April 02 flight, 72 hours from Bangkok to Gatwick. After being stranded in Sharjah, UAE for 60 hours and an almost total lack of communication from Phuket Air, I can do nothing other than urge anyone who is planning on taking a flight to cancel their tickets immediately and find someone/anyone other than these clowns, to travel with.
Since you are all true professionnals I can only say that the passengers were not happy about this flights.
I can add only their comments from the website all known to us.
Phuket Air - by E Wrynn
6 April 2005
BKK-LGW with Phuket Air on 04-05-05 - total chaos!! Passengers on plane before us would not get back on plane, after re-fueling at Sharjah - because of the "minor problem" of fuel leaking out of the engine! We flew in 2 days later, to find them still waiting at Sharjah for our plane to pick them up. Bit of a problem though, our plane was also leaking fluid from the engine (different plane). Waited in Sharjah for 16 hrs for the muppets to fix the plane (well kind of fix it). Don't fly with them - Dangerous !!
Phuket Air - by Adam Benjamin
6 April 2005
I have just arrived back in the UK after the journey from hell, the April 02 flight, 72 hours from Bangkok to Gatwick. After being stranded in Sharjah, UAE for 60 hours and an almost total lack of communication from Phuket Air, I can do nothing other than urge anyone who is planning on taking a flight to cancel their tickets immediately and find someone/anyone other than these clowns, to travel with.
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http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=367452005It's time for them to fly better and newer aircrafts and to improve the maintenance of their aircrafts.
A british estocada?
The World's least Favourite Airline
Leaking fuel tanks, faulty safety equipment, passenger revolts: Phuket Air has suffered a catalogue of hair-raising problems this week.
Cahal Milmo reports on the turbulence at 35,000 feet
Its all in The Independent online:
The Department for Transport described the faults as "serious defects" and has ordered the plane (HS-VAN) to be grounded until it is repaired
Or the revanche of "typical drunken Brits"? There is no suggestion that Phuket Air, which has an unblemished safety record, operated the flights without adhering to all safety standards.
But in aviation, image is everything....
Can this be called a british estocada?
Leaking fuel tanks, faulty safety equipment, passenger revolts: Phuket Air has suffered a catalogue of hair-raising problems this week.
Cahal Milmo reports on the turbulence at 35,000 feet
Its all in The Independent online:
The Department for Transport described the faults as "serious defects" and has ordered the plane (HS-VAN) to be grounded until it is repaired
Or the revanche of "typical drunken Brits"? There is no suggestion that Phuket Air, which has an unblemished safety record, operated the flights without adhering to all safety standards.
But in aviation, image is everything....
Can this be called a british estocada?
The last news from the thai newspaper The Nation.
just some lines, the rest you see by the link
http://nationmultimedia.com/latest
Phuket Air suffers further embarrassment
Published on Apr 10 , 2005
many passengers cancelled their flight to the Netherlands after learning that it would be delayed by over 20 hours
A passenger who requested anonymity said a fellow passenger fainted at about 5pm yesterday after waiting for two hours on the plane.
She said many of the remaining passengers decided to defy an order for them to remain on the plane after the passenger that fainted was removed for treatment.
The airline twice aborted flights from the United Arab Emirates bound for Britain last Sunday when passengers angrily complained after spotting fuel gushing from a wing.
Another flight was delayed overnight last Wednesday due to hydraulic problems.
On the following day a flight from London's Gatwick Airport to Bangkok returned to the British capital after an engine had to be shut off mid-flight.
just some lines, the rest you see by the link
http://nationmultimedia.com/latest
Phuket Air suffers further embarrassment
Published on Apr 10 , 2005
many passengers cancelled their flight to the Netherlands after learning that it would be delayed by over 20 hours
A passenger who requested anonymity said a fellow passenger fainted at about 5pm yesterday after waiting for two hours on the plane.
She said many of the remaining passengers decided to defy an order for them to remain on the plane after the passenger that fainted was removed for treatment.
The airline twice aborted flights from the United Arab Emirates bound for Britain last Sunday when passengers angrily complained after spotting fuel gushing from a wing.
Another flight was delayed overnight last Wednesday due to hydraulic problems.
On the following day a flight from London's Gatwick Airport to Bangkok returned to the British capital after an engine had to be shut off mid-flight.
Ministry puts Phuket Air under microscope.......
http://www.phuketgazette.net/news/index.asp?id=4215
http://www.phuketgazette.net/news/index.asp?id=4215
Bart could mail to Capt Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut the e-mail he received?
and the saga goes on and on, read this in the BKK Post of today!
SONGKRAN HOLIDAY / AIR TRAVELLERS STRANDED, TERROR FEARS ON THE RIVER, WOMEN'S SURVEY
Phuket Air woes leave 800 fuming
Lack of aircraft due to aviation inspections
AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK CHAROEN KITTIKANYA
Phuket Air's shortage of aircraft spoiled Songkran plans for some 800 passengers, who were left fuming and stranded at Don Muang international airport for hours yesterday.
The problem at the airport's terminal 2 came in the wake of a decision by the Aviation Department to allow only two of the airline's 13 planes _ one Boeing 747 and one Boeing 757 _ to fly.
The rest did not pass safety inspections by the officials or have not been inspected as they were under routine checks overseas, or have not been returned to the base in Bangkok.
An inspection of the entire fleet of the embattled airline on orders of Deputy Transport Minister Phumtham Vejjayachai began on Monday, after three separate incidents on its planes since March 18.
The last two took place within a one-week span including the one last Saturday, when a problem with the hydraulic system forced a flight to Amsterdam, the Netherlands, to be delayed for 24 hours.
Mr Phumtham yesterday said the bad record of the airline, which was launched in 2001, had put it on top of the Transport Ministry's watch-list, when planes of all Thailand-based airlines will be randomly checked on international safety standards after the Songkran holiday.
He also warned Phuket Air could lose its licence if the airline did not improve its operations. ``If we conclude from inspections that Phuket Air is inefficient, its licence will be revoked,'' Mr Phumtham said.
Chairat Meksukree, vice chairman of Phuket Air, said the airline would cooperate with the inspectors, despite the fact these thorough checks of each and every aircraft would hurt the airline financially.
Phuket Air claimed to lose over 10 million baht per day for delayed flights, including passengers' overnight accommodation and changing tickets for passengers who wanted to defer their schedule during the inspections.
The airline could go bust if its fleet were ordered grounded, he said.
With only two aircraft in operation yesterday, Phuket Air's three chartered flights to China were badly affected. Only one flight carrying about 400 passengers could take off and the other two flights with 800 passengers combined had to be cancelled.
Passengers on cancelled flights were frustrated at the airline's inability to help them, as its counter service at the terminal was closed.
``I have been waiting for hours without knowing when I can fly,'' one passenger said.
Their frustration prompted Transport Minister Suriya Jungrungreangkit, Mr Phumtham and Aviation Department officials to go to the airport to calm things down.
Mr Suriya ordered eight travel agents who arranged the trips on Phuket Air's chartered flights to refund their customers, and the ministry would be responsible for their visa fees.
This seemed to satisfy the passengers, who collected their belongings and returned home from the airport.
Phuket Air's aircraft shortage also affected its two international routes to London and Amsterdam.
In a statement released yesterday, Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, Phuket Air's executive vice president, apologised to passengers and promised refunds on cancelled flights. ``Phuket Air is now actively working to transfer passengers to other airlines that serve the same destinations. We will provide refunds to those who have cancelled their Phuket Air flights.''
SONGKRAN HOLIDAY / AIR TRAVELLERS STRANDED, TERROR FEARS ON THE RIVER, WOMEN'S SURVEY
Phuket Air woes leave 800 fuming
Lack of aircraft due to aviation inspections
AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK CHAROEN KITTIKANYA
Phuket Air's shortage of aircraft spoiled Songkran plans for some 800 passengers, who were left fuming and stranded at Don Muang international airport for hours yesterday.
The problem at the airport's terminal 2 came in the wake of a decision by the Aviation Department to allow only two of the airline's 13 planes _ one Boeing 747 and one Boeing 757 _ to fly.
The rest did not pass safety inspections by the officials or have not been inspected as they were under routine checks overseas, or have not been returned to the base in Bangkok.
An inspection of the entire fleet of the embattled airline on orders of Deputy Transport Minister Phumtham Vejjayachai began on Monday, after three separate incidents on its planes since March 18.
The last two took place within a one-week span including the one last Saturday, when a problem with the hydraulic system forced a flight to Amsterdam, the Netherlands, to be delayed for 24 hours.
Mr Phumtham yesterday said the bad record of the airline, which was launched in 2001, had put it on top of the Transport Ministry's watch-list, when planes of all Thailand-based airlines will be randomly checked on international safety standards after the Songkran holiday.
He also warned Phuket Air could lose its licence if the airline did not improve its operations. ``If we conclude from inspections that Phuket Air is inefficient, its licence will be revoked,'' Mr Phumtham said.
Chairat Meksukree, vice chairman of Phuket Air, said the airline would cooperate with the inspectors, despite the fact these thorough checks of each and every aircraft would hurt the airline financially.
Phuket Air claimed to lose over 10 million baht per day for delayed flights, including passengers' overnight accommodation and changing tickets for passengers who wanted to defer their schedule during the inspections.
The airline could go bust if its fleet were ordered grounded, he said.
With only two aircraft in operation yesterday, Phuket Air's three chartered flights to China were badly affected. Only one flight carrying about 400 passengers could take off and the other two flights with 800 passengers combined had to be cancelled.
Passengers on cancelled flights were frustrated at the airline's inability to help them, as its counter service at the terminal was closed.
``I have been waiting for hours without knowing when I can fly,'' one passenger said.
Their frustration prompted Transport Minister Suriya Jungrungreangkit, Mr Phumtham and Aviation Department officials to go to the airport to calm things down.
Mr Suriya ordered eight travel agents who arranged the trips on Phuket Air's chartered flights to refund their customers, and the ministry would be responsible for their visa fees.
This seemed to satisfy the passengers, who collected their belongings and returned home from the airport.
Phuket Air's aircraft shortage also affected its two international routes to London and Amsterdam.
In a statement released yesterday, Chawanit Chiamcharoenvut, Phuket Air's executive vice president, apologised to passengers and promised refunds on cancelled flights. ``Phuket Air is now actively working to transfer passengers to other airlines that serve the same destinations. We will provide refunds to those who have cancelled their Phuket Air flights.''