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Re: Re-opening Brussels Airport after the 22/03/2016 terror attacks

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Tompompier wrote: A lot of airport staff have been working very hard in the passed week to make it possible to get this airport reopened as soon as possible, and they just don't deserve to be bashed like some members are doing on here. I invite you all to do better.
I think that this bashing is partly due to the fact that, regarding the damages/reopening, the communication between BRU and the general public has been limited to "don't worry we got this." or "maybe tomorrow".
I'm not blaming them for that, those are difficult circumstances, and I understand the "fix the situation first then communicate", but I understand that some people are getting frustrated even if I'm not.

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mad_fab wrote:
Tompompier wrote: A lot of airport staff have been working very hard in the passed week to make it possible to get this airport reopened as soon as possible, and they just don't deserve to be bashed like some members are doing on here. I invite you all to do better.
I think that this bashing is partly due to the fact that, regarding the damages/reopening, the communication between BRU and the general public has been limited to "don't worry we got this." or "maybe tomorrow". I'm not blaming them for that, those are difficult circumstances, and I understand the "fix the situation first then communicate", but I understand that some people are getting frustrated even if I'm not.
Brussels Airport communicated correct. They never said "don't worry" and they never said "maybe tomorrow". Their first communication was "we don't know yet, we haven't been able to assess the damage" and their last communication was "the Belgian CAA says the airport is safe. We're now awaiting the green light from the police". However, then the Belgian disease appeared on the scene: the unions, hijacking the airport because they hate the minister of Home Affairs and his political party.

Yes, we've seen a lot of bashing here. But actually just the same few guys again and again: people from competition airports, and people who have no idea at all about the damage at the inside. Just after it happened, I also thought it was just a lot of broken windows and a lot of cleaning to be done. Untill somebody who has been there told me about the damage.

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This morning, around 08:20 LT I noticed that the roundabout underneath the flyover towards the terminal was completely blocked. Not a single car was able to move...

I was informed that this was indeed due to an Industrial action by airport police officers.

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What a shame. I'm in doubt about the biggest enemy of Belgium, is it ISIS or Rudy de Leeuw?

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Then, since the military are not allowed to strike, let them carry out the controls at the airport until the police show a better behaviour.
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To me it seemed for sure it they said every day 'maybe tomorrow'. And this because of the way they communicated towards the public and towards companies as well.

Every day I got a call from crewing informing me that my flight is cancelled for ... March/April, one day every time. My operations department gets the delay day by day... Only yesterday they have been informed that Saturday there will be no flights ... BRU should have been clear from the beginning. Why couldn't they say closed for 10 days? They could always have said afterwards 'We have worked so hard that we are able to open 2 days earlier...' But I have to be honest: very easy for me to say, I have no idea what they have to deal with....

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Apuneger wrote:This morning, around 08:20 LT I noticed that the roundabout underneath the flyover towards the terminal was completely blocked. Not a single car was able to move...

I was informed that this was indeed due to an Industrial action by airport police officers.

Best regards,
Ivan
They are now deliberately blocking the repair work at the airport!!! Shame on them!!! These are not police; they are hooligans!

Thanks to our unions, the terrorists have won!

Security checks at the terminals' entrance isn't done in the US either! (And God knows how paranoid they can be!)

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Give me 1 airport in Europe where an extra checkpoint is active before you enter the terminal ?

0 - zero - nada

I can understand police needs equipment, extra staff and a better FBI/MI6 !!

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Put the army to reopen the acces. Surelly for repair and preparing the re opening.

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sn26567 wrote:Then, since the military are not allowed to strike, let them carry out the controls at the airport until the police show a better behaviour.
Soldiers are not mandated nor trained to perform passportcontrol.

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Conti764 wrote:
sn26567 wrote:Then, since the military are not allowed to strike, let them carry out the controls at the airport until the police show a better behaviour.
Soldiers are not mandated nor trained to perform passportcontrol.
Friday in CRL..... Police was on "pause café", the army was well doing the job.
and the same on sunday....

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Airbus330lover wrote:
Conti764 wrote:
sn26567 wrote:Then, since the military are not allowed to strike, let them carry out the controls at the airport until the police show a better behaviour.
Soldiers are not mandated nor trained to perform passportcontrol.
Friday in CRL..... Police was on "pause café", the army was well doing the job.
and the same on sunday....
Again, soldiers can't do passport control. I am not talking about patroling the airport.

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Passenger wrote:However, then the Belgian disease appeared on the scene: the unions, hijacking the airport because they hate the minister of Home Affairs and his political party.


Please refrain commenting if you don't know what it's about... Police hating the N-VA? Come on... Even the average Walloon cop likes them for their position on crime and the way Antwerp police thrived compared to e.g. Brussels police. If you think this can be reduced to just the average union member being left and tvus against the right N-VA, you're way off...

I don't agree with all of the demands, but if some people fell victim to the 'old Belgian dissease' it's people like Jambon who made promisses but didn't follow up on them. Ever since people were queuing for hours at BRU, nothing has changed.

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Conti764 wrote:
Passenger wrote:However, then the Belgian disease appeared on the scene: the unions, hijacking the airport because they hate the minister of Home Affairs and his political party.

Please refrain commenting if you don't know what it's about... Police hating the N-VA?
I did not say "the police hates the NVA". I've said "the unions hate the NVA". Quite a difference.

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@conti764 .. you mean the alternative ways of financing the police @Antwerp? ;-)

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There is a Facebook page set up by people who want an entrance check at the airport.

https://www.facebook.com/BRUentrychecks/

Don't dare to post a message that goes against their opinion: it will be immediately deleted and you will be blocked from posting messages in the future! Freedom of expression?
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sn26567 wrote:There is a Facebook page set up by people who want an entrance check at the airport.

https://www.facebook.com/BRUentrychecks/

Don't dare to post a message that goes against their opinion: it will be immediately deleted and you will be blocked from posting messages in the future! Freedom of expression?

Hey I saw your comment, "I never felt unsafe at Brussels Airport" right?
Did they really block you for that?

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mad_fab wrote:
sn26567 wrote:There is a Facebook page set up by people who want an entrance check at the airport.

https://www.facebook.com/BRUentrychecks/

Don't dare to post a message that goes against their opinion: it will be immediately deleted and you will be blocked from posting messages in the future! Freedom of expression?

Hey I saw your comment, "I never felt unsafe at Brussels Airport" right?
Did they really block you for that?
No, I posted other comments saying that their blocking of the reopening of Brussels Airport was damaging the economy and bleeding Brussels Airlines to death, and also that entrance checks do not solve the security problems, but shifting them elsewhere.

Now, they claim to have the support from 20,000 airport workers and 20 million passengers. But I, for one, was never consulted.
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mad_fab wrote:
sn26567 wrote:There is a Facebook page set up by people who want an entrance check at the airport.

https://www.facebook.com/BRUentrychecks/

Don't dare to post a message that goes against their opinion: it will be immediately deleted and you will be blocked from posting messages in the future! Freedom of expression?

Hey I saw your comment, "I never felt unsafe at Brussels Airport" right?
Did they really block you for that?
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sn26567 wrote:There is a Facebook page set up by people who want an entrance check at the airport.
https://www.facebook.com/BRUentrychecks/
Don't dare to post a message that goes against their opinion: it will be immediately deleted and you will be blocked from posting messages in the future! Freedom of expression?
For every airport that has a pre safety check, I can give them 10 airports that don't have it.

The only thing that such pre check will do, is limit damage to buildings.

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