Malaysia Airlines apply for Skyteam, Air France says NO?

cathayoneworld · Post by **cathayoneworld** » 17 Jun 2005, 13:33

I saw a post in the Airwise Discussion Forum.
"AF says NO to MH SkyTeam entry; wants TG; MH eyes oneworld "

This post mentions that Malaysia has appiled for Skyteam entry. However,

- KLM welcomes MH entering Skyteam. But KLM's partner, Air France, is not happy and say NO.

- Air France wants Thai International Airways to leave Star Alliance and join Skyteam.
( I found that Air France was trying to get Thai into Skyteam after Singapore Airlines entering Star Alliance in 2000. Thai was unhappy at that time. )

- Air France isn't happy for MH entry to Skyteam and MH wants to join Oneworld instead if it can't enter Skyteam.

Is this true???

I think that MH is quite a good fit for Oneworld. Cathay Pacific is lacking flights which link Australia, Southeast Asia & Europe.

RCV · Post by **RCV** » 17 Jun 2005, 15:40

there is no room for MAS in Oneworld next to CX. That's exactly the same problem when SQ joined Star. Eventually MAS will enter Skyteam, because of lack of a proper carrier in that region for Skyteam. What i heard was that AF's board was against the join of MAS due to difference in opinion with the board of MAS.

Thai also isn't interesting of exiting *Alliance due to high costs. At the moment TG is doing fine with SQ next to them.

Future full member carriers in Skyteam:

JJ (TAM)
MH (Malaysian)

associate members:

Copa
Kenya airways
Tarom
Air Europe

MVG

RCV

cathayoneworld · Post by **cathayoneworld** » 17 Jun 2005, 15:46

Will TAM enter skyteam?

TAM has recently ended its relationship with Air France and got closer with American Airlines. I think TAM will enter oneworld soon

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 18 Jun 2005, 22:30

What about Malaysia Airlines in the Star Alliance ?

rgds,

A380-800

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 19 Jun 2005, 03:32

A380-800 wrote:What about Malaysia Airlines in the Star Alliance ?

TG + SQ + MH in STAR = Waaaayyyy too crowded in S.E Asia IMO. The added value of MH to the existing STAR network would be inexistent.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 19 Jun 2005, 03:49

SR89 wrote:TG + SQ + MH in STAR = Waaaayyyy too crowded in S.E Asia IMO. The added value of MH to the existing STAR network would be inexistent.

Even if I'm 100% agree with you, may I remind we have here in Europe the exact counter-example (LH + OS + LX + LO + BM + TP + SK + JK) as a matter of fact.

Regards

Seb.

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 19 Jun 2005, 05:02

Absolutely.

...but LX and OS are LH's b!thes, then you got SK and BM. The others are just figurants.

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