Another Canadian Jewel (to avoid)..."hard landing"

gwillie · Post by **gwillie** » 03 Jun 2005, 22:19

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/arch ... c7278.html

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Canada

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005 ... 93-cp.html

Some people won't ever learn that you get what you pay for!

Fly on the cheap, take your life into your own hands.

-funny thing though, no word of any official accident investigation anywhere

JDarby · Post by **JDarby** » 03 Jun 2005, 23:01

The Canadian government is increasingly becoming an absentee overseer of civil aviation.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 03 Jun 2005, 23:25

One should not be to hasty in blaming the airline, this could have been a microburst, a severe down draft that will drop an aircraft like a rock in a matter of milliseconds, happens all the time in the middle regions.

KT

JDarby · Post by **JDarby** » 04 Jun 2005, 00:47

bits44 wrote:One should not be to hasty in blaming the airline, this could have been a microburst ..

On this point we are in total agreement.

gwillie · Post by **gwillie** » 04 Jun 2005, 01:29

Surely, however, had this accident been caused by a microburst or other meteorological phenomenon, wouldn't the airline by now (some 13 days later) have made an announcement to that effect? It appears that the silence from Skyservice is deafening.

A spokesperson for Skyservice was not immediately available for comment Friday, although the airline has previously described the incident as a "hard landing."

HUH?????????????

Re: microburst encounters, isn't doppler radar now standard equipment on large commercial a/c?

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 04 Jun 2005, 03:56

Many, but not all modern aircraft are equipped, as well as airports prone to microbursts are equipped, however I am not aware if any were present in this situation. There certainly should have been some kind of formal statement by now.

KT

gwillie · Post by **gwillie** » 04 Jun 2005, 21:03

Joel Rochon, one of the lawyers retained by Ms. Maggisano, commented:
"The passengers are very upset and are looking for answers from Skyservice as to how such a serious accident and near disaster happened."

-well, certainly, they'll now get some answers.....a report on CBC Radio One today indicated that the Canadian Transportation Safety Board, at the request of the government of the Dominician Republic, has already started an investigation, having seized the FDR after the accident.

Gate-A1 · Post by **Gate-A1** » 04 Jun 2005, 21:08

Images are wow!

http://www.skyserviceclassaction.com/im ... rvice1.jpg

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 04 Jun 2005, 21:47

Gate-A1 wrote:Images are wow!

http://www.skyserviceclassaction.com/im ... rvice1.jpg

Uuups, that looks really serious ! Can it be repaired ? I guess not, but maybe
someone else has more inside view than me.

rgds,

A380-800

gwillie · Post by **gwillie** » 04 Jun 2005, 22:34

hhhmmmmmmmmm, yup, I guess you could call that a "hard landing", fractured fuselage & all...check out the other pix on that site http://www.skyserviceclassaction.com/, different angles, closeups, etc...

Hard to see how "harder" it could have been....

Then again, there was this
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogalle ... MD-80.mpeg

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 04 Jun 2005, 22:41

Yes, the MD-80 landing was even harder and beyond repair, I guess.
But what about the 767 from Skyservice, can it be repaired ?

rgds,

A380-800

B744skipper · Post by **B744skipper** » 04 Jun 2005, 23:42

A380-800 wrote:But what about the 767 from Skyservice, can it be repaired?

Yes, the aircraft can be repaired. In 1994 there was an Asiana B763 which had suffered similar damage, and that aircraft was repaired and put back into service. But that aircraft was fairly young back then, where Skyservice's Boeing is about 11 years old. It depends on the fact if it's economical to repair the aircraft. Apart from the damage seen on the photograph, it has been said that the aircraft has also sustained damage to the wings.

A lot of information can be found on the Airliners.net topic regarding the incident in Punta Cana.

Also be sure to check out this website regarding the incident, which contains these pictures of the aircraft! 8O

At night the damage seems to be looking worse then in daylight:

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 05 Jun 2005, 00:04

Thanks, B744skipper. Considering that the bird is 11 years old they have to
calculate if a repair is worth the effort/money. Nevertheless, good to hear
that no passenger was seriously injuired here.

rgds,

A380-800

gwillie · Post by **gwillie** » 05 Jun 2005, 15:17

A second website exists (referenced in the A.net forum), seemingly the original one created by passengers of that flight, offers additional night and daytime pix of the a/c, a TV news clip, references pix held by one pax of the a/c interior, has a passenger forum (with a section for "professional pilot" comment/input and the results of a comprehensive survey completed by some of the pax.....very interesting.

http://www.afterfivestudios.com/flight560/index.php