The agreements signed with Boeing and GECAS include 16 firm orders for aircraft to be delivered in 2006 and 2007, and 16 purchase rights for aircraft to be delivered in 2008 and 2009. Out of the 16 firm orders, 12 aircraft will be financed by GECAS.
That means 12 Boeings will come via GECAS of which 6 are already on order and 6 new orders. The other 4 will be purchased by SkyEurope to complete 16 firm.
Boeing and Japan Airlines Complete 787 and 737 Agreements:
The order will consist of 30 Boeing 787 (options for 20 more) to replace the current fleet of Boeing 767's and Airbus A300's. Also JAL will order 30 Boeing 737-800's (options for 10 more) to replace it's current fleet of current fleet of Boeing 737-400's and MD80/90's. JAL also considers some orders for the Boeing 737-900X.
Good to see that Boeing is back on track and receives orders like crazy. But I wonder why Boeing doesn't hold back the orders and announces them on the Paris Air Show, which will assure them of more publicity. Also since Airbus wants to announce major orders then, so that could result in Airbus being the only one in the spotlights.
why Boeing doesn't hold back the orders and announces them on the Paris Air Show
Typically Boeing is less flamboyant than Airbus. They don't have to show to the taxpayers of the various Nations that are part of Airbus that their money is well spent and that order are coming from all over. 8O [/quote]
Well it's your right to "hate" or better say dislike one or more airlines, but if this is the case why don't you elaborate more instead of just saying "I Hate those airlines".... Otherwise it's of no use to make such comments.
BTW what does your reaction have to do with the original topic ?
I hope to read a more constructive answer from your side.
I am glad the industry is doing good for most of the airline constructors. I wished it was counting also for the airlines that have to pay and fly with those beauties from Boeing and Airbus. It is getting time the fuel prices are going to get lower fast.
ps JAL 787 looks really nice
Comming back to the original topic - SkyEurope's expansion is a major problem for AUA,considering Bratislava beeing only 35 Km from Schwechat Airport.
Should they really expand that fast,they would be bigger than LOT or Malev ...
Boeing is doing really well compared with the last year, and before that. This new sales team (they replaced the old one?) is doing very well, the orders just keep coming. But I'm getting a bit confused here, the orders for Boeing are just flowing in, maybe someone has an overview of all of the recent orders, I lost that overview a bit.
The latest big orders came from:
- Air Canada;
- Air India (still a bit confusing);
- Ryanair;
- JAL;
- SkyEurope;
- China Southern;
- ???????
If anyone wants to add to this list, please go ahead!
You are 100% right, Dude320. A.Skowronek know how to run an airline and C.Mandl came with the idea (there was no airline based in slovakia before) and the financing (some investors + the EU).
The airline is financed by an international consortium including funds of the EBRD, ABN AMRO Bank and the renowned European investors.
Jense wrote:
Airbus/Boeing 2005 Orders
Airbus TOTAL = 133
Boeing TOTAL = 390
What we need to know in order to find out who is really in the lead is what financial conditions have been given to these customers? how viable are they in the long run? Most af these are also intentions and not finalised orders (see boieng website for latest figure which reads: 2005 net orders as of May 3rd = 63 .... only about 20% of the intentions to purchased which are referred to here above.
So shouldn't we actually compare
B at 63 firm orders
A at 133 firm orders?
That is exactly what I meant hereabove. This order has already been pre-announced, annouced, and is now only approved by the board of Ryanair, but still not literally put to Boieng.
When you mention 133 for Airbus, it is definitive orders finalised not including intentions to purchase.
tof1973 wrote:Jense wrote:
Airbus/Boeing 2005 Orders
Airbus TOTAL = 133 <> Boeing TOTAL = 390
What we need to know in order to find out who is really in the lead is what financial conditions have been given to these customers?
Actually the way this business is done, I don't want to know.
btw, I realise now I have 4 posters of B on my office walls and none of A. But all these are over 20 years old. One is even nearly 40.
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