Air Cara bes to add a 3th A330

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 19 Mar 2005, 17:44

Air Caraïbes will lease a third A330. The A330-300, with a capacity of 375 seats, will be delivered in JUN 2006.

The airlines operates currently 2 A330-200 leased from ILFC.
The airline operate also 2 ATR 72-500 and have 2 E-170 on order.

Regards

Seb.

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viasa · Post by **viasa** » 19 Mar 2005, 17:50

It's Air Caraïbes Atlantique!

Is it maybe the c/n 54???

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 19 Mar 2005, 17:54

Yes, the full name is Air Caraïbes Atlantique (registered), but everybody, including themself say Air Caraïbes only.
http://www.aircaraibes.com/

Regards

Seb.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 19 Mar 2005, 18:47

viasa wrote: Is it maybe the c/n 54???

It could be, but wouldn't it make more sense to aquire a PW engined A333. Since the two other ones have PW engines......

viasa · Post by **viasa** » 19 Mar 2005, 19:07

Yes, the full name is Air Caraïbes Atlantique (registered), but everybody, including themself say Air Caraïbes only.

Air Caraïbes is the PTP-based regional airline (C208, Do228, ATR42/72, ERJ145).
Air Caraïbes Atlantique is the ORY-based long-haul airline (A332).

But they are both in the Groupe Dubreuil and operate both under the Air Caraïbes-brand.

The order for the two Embraer 170 is cancelled!!! But they (Air Caraïbes) ordered one more ATR72!

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 19 Mar 2005, 19:42

Viasa, why do you think it could be c/n 054? This aircraft is currently operated by Air Algérie and appears to be leased from AWAS.
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/?app=a330&msn=54

http://www.airfleets.net/show/?pic=4472

Regards

Seb.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 19 Mar 2005, 20:01

But they are both in the Groupe Dubreuil and operate both under the Air Caraïbes-brand.

Yes, the Groupe Dubreuil is the owner. it is the same who sold Régional airlines to AF Group.

The order for the two Embraer 170 is cancelled!!!

I wasn't aware about that, thanks!

Air Caraïbes is the PTP-based regional airline (C208, Do228, ATR42/72, ERJ145).

Air Caraïbes is now Air Antilles Express. Some aircrafts are still in Air Caraïbes livery.
http://www.airantilles.com/airantilles/
see also:
http://www.airguyane.com/

Regards

Seb.

viasa · Post by **viasa** » 20 Mar 2005, 12:39

Air Caraïbes is now Air Antilles Express.

In my opinion is this just wrong!!! Air Antilles Express is an independent airline from PTP but also with ATR42!

The owner is the Guyane Aero Invest

Viasa, why do you think it could be c/n 054? This aircraft is currently operated by Air Algérie and appears to be leased from AWAS.

All Airbus A330-300 are in service. I think the leasing period with Air Algérie is soon past (because of the delivery of the A330-200-fleet). An other possibility is also the order of a new Airbus A330-300!

Operator of A330-300:
- Aer Lingus ( 4 )
- Air Algérie ( 1 )
- Air Canada ( 8 )
- Air Luxor ( 2 )
- Air Transat ( 1 )
- Asiana Airlines ( 1 )
- Cathay Pacific ( 23 )
- China Airlines ( 3 )
- Dragonair ( 10 )
- Garuda Indonesia ( 6 )
- Iberworld Airlines ( 1 )
- Korean Air ( 16 )
- LTU ( 3 )
- Lufthansa ( 8 )
- Malaysia Airlines ( 11 )
- MyTravel Airways Scandinavia ( 3 )
- Northwest Airlines ( 8 )
- Philippines ( 8 )
- Qantas ( 8 )
- Qatar Airways ( 2 )
- SAS Scandinavian Airlines ( 4 )
- Skyservice Airlines ( 1 ) [lst MyTravel Airways, for LTU]
- SN Brussels Airlines ( 3 )
- Thai Airways Intl ( 12 )
- US Airways ( 9 )

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 20 Mar 2005, 12:56

About the A330-300, I think it will be a new buid one.
About Air Antilles Express, you might be right. Perhaps they just took over some routes previously operated by Air Caraïbes.

Regards

Seb.

Post by **Bruspotter** » 20 Mar 2005, 20:20

Hello

Nice to hear that. Those Air Carraïbes 330's are awasome!!!!!!

Very nice planes!!! Always reminds me on last September , when F-OFDF operated several Charters on behalf of Belgium Exel plane wich was broken down(or at least that's what I remember myself...does it?).

But a 330-300 would be new for the airline...although I think I like the 332 of Air Carraïbes more than the 333 , more modern...

Best regards: Yannick

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 28 Mar 2005, 11:40

CH-Aviation wrote:Air Madrid (NM/Madrid) will lease an ex-Lufthansa (LH/Frankfurt) A310-300 and an ex-Air Algérie (AH/Alger) A330-300.

So it is not this bird. I'm still convinced it will be a new one.

Regards

Seb.

viasa · Post by **viasa** » 28 Mar 2005, 19:56

@Seb:

I know... thats from our site!

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 28 Mar 2005, 20:03

I know you know

! I'm well aware you work for CH-Aviation

.

Regards

Seb.

viasa · Post by **viasa** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:42

I have the information, that the plane is an Airbus A330-243 (c/n 758).

So, nothing with an A330-300.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 29 Apr 2005, 21:24

A RR powered aircraft ?!!

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 29 Apr 2005, 21:56

HorsePower wrote:A RR powered aircraft ?!!

Yes #758 is a -243 which means it'll get RR engines and this plane is indeed listed for Air Caraibes.

Chris

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 27 May 2005, 00:08

Century City, CA, April 13, 2005 — International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), a wholly-owned subsidiary of American International Group, Inc. (NYSE: AIG), announced the lease placement of one (1) new Airbus A330-300 aircraft to AIR CARAIBES.

AIR CARAIBES, based in Guadeloupe, French West Indies, will lease one (1) new Airbus A330-300 aircraft from ILFC. The aircraft will be powered by PW4168 engines and is scheduled to deliver in June 2006. The lease term is for 5 years.

AIR CARAIBES will have a total of three (3) Airbus A330’s leased from ILFC when this aircraft delivers.

(from ILFC website)

It appears that it will be powered with PW4000s.

Seb.

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 27 May 2005, 20:38

I am not awre of the ILFC leased A333 as mentioned by HorsePower,
but MSN 758 (A332) is definetaly for FWI and will be delivered somewhere
in June/July 2006.

rgds,

A380-800

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 27 May 2005, 21:16

It's quite strange indeed...

So the aircraft is for FWI and not CAJ?! I think we've missed something...

IATA Code: TX
ICAO Code: FWI
Known As: Air Caraibes
Full Name: Air Caraibes
Country: Gaudeloupe
Callsign: French West

IATA Code: -ukn-
ICAO Code: CAJ
Known As: Air Caraibes Atlantique
Full Name: Air Caraibes Atlantique
Country: Guadeloupe
Callsign: Car Line

Regards

Seb.

viasa · Post by **viasa** » 28 May 2005, 00:42

No.... she is for Air Caraibes Atlantique....

IATA Code: -ukn-
ICAO Code: CAJ
Known As: Air Caraibes Atlantique
Full Name: Air Caraibes Atlantique
Country: Guadeloupe
Callsign: Car Line

Country is not Guadeloupe*... CAJ is from France (Metropol). The HQ is in Wissous - that must be near Paris-Orly...

* okay... Guadeloupe is just a DOM of France!

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