Boeing ahead of Airbus in 2005 order race so far

Humberside · Post by **Humberside** » 23 Feb 2005, 22:15

http://www.justplanes.com/acorders.html

Airbus = -11
Boeing = 145

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 24 Feb 2005, 01:10

But the year has barely started.

How does this compare to end of february 2004, and how did 2004 end?

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 24 Feb 2005, 02:36

I don't really pay much attention to who has the most orders/deliveries. All that matters to me is who is making profits.

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:48

I am interested in airplanes, not dollars...

But okay, who is making the most profit?

SicilianFalcon · Post by **SicilianFalcon** » 24 Feb 2005, 17:33

Well done boeing, Allthough they have won more orders in the last 2 months dont forget the big deals Airbus has with Easy Jet and Air Berlin amongst others. Both are selling lots of planes and this is good for us all

P.s. Nice one on the FR deal.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 24 Feb 2005, 17:36

Knight255 wrote:I don't really pay much attention to who has the most orders/deliveries. All that matters to me is who is making profits.

Then why are you on Luchtzak and not on Wallstreet

(Just a joke)

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 24 Feb 2005, 19:19

A company that turns a profit, typically, indidates a healthy company. I should be on Wallstreet!! I would make a lot more $$$ than flight instructing. Wouldn't be as fun though.

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 24 Feb 2005, 19:47

It can also indicate major accounting fraud.

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 25 Feb 2005, 00:47

Money is money though. Money pays for stuff, like new airplane development. Boeing does not have the luxury of government support with new airplane development, although, I'd think it'd be pretty interesting if Boeing did recieve direct funding for commercial airplane development.

SicilianFalcon · Post by **SicilianFalcon** » 25 Feb 2005, 00:56

If you think boeing has never recieved money from the Us government or favours you are naive.

8)

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 25 Feb 2005, 04:02

Not to the same extent that Airbus has, and I'm not including military projects. What my point was, I'd like to see Boeing Commercial recieve direct funding from the U.S. government for new airplane development. I think it would even the odds. I think it's only fair if EADS and Airbus recieve funding from their respective governments, so should Boeing (both for military projects, AND commercial).

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 25 Feb 2005, 10:53

Airbus pays back the loans it gets, but let's not get in to an A vs. B war...

L-1011 · Post by **L-1011** » 25 Feb 2005, 14:19

And now the A vs. B 2005 order counter stands @

Airbus TOTAL = -11

Boeing TOTAL = 215

And then there still is that possible Malysian order for 60 737-800

What's happening

Boeing is selling more in two months than in an entire year

Did they revise their pricelist

ciao,
TriStar

Post by **sn26567** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:12

L-1011 wrote:What's happening Boeing is selling more in two months than in an entire year

Did they revise their pricelist

Or did the dollar fall so low against the euro that Airbus isn't competitive anymore?

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:18

That's why Airbus wants an other factory in the US, with $ cost.

Seb.

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:19

Well, with a new airplane, a lot of customers will be initially interested (hence the order boom, if I recall the same happened with the A380). I suspect they shall taper off as the year goes by. I think it could be a combination of both the dollar weakness and Boeing revising its selling strategy.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:22

I agree Knight255.

Also, Icelandair just ordered 2 B787 (2010).

Seb.

L-1011 · Post by **L-1011** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:24

Knight255 wrote:Well, with a new airplane, a lot of customers will be initially interested (hence the order boom, if I recall the same happened with the A380).

Well the bulk of their 2005 orders until now, is made of 737NG's . So indeed I would rally to André's idea of the weak dollar .

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:28

Both seem good to me.

Seb.

Post by **sn26567** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:58

HorsePower wrote:Also, Icelandair just ordered 2 B787 (2010).

https://www.aviation24.be/article7847.html