Bush coming to Belgium in February 2005

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Robin_Bamps wrote:UA 950 is the daily flight operated by a 763. The 772 with the press is an extra flight (and not a passenger flight), so she will probably not appear on the BIAC Arrival page.
That's what he said, he also knows that the UA is a regular one... :roll:

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Brubiac wrote:
slipsnifter wrote: there is a big chance AF1 will arrive at ABELAG.
Nope, can't tell more. Sorry
Idd, hey will NOT arrive at ABELAG, the only thing I can say, try to get a view of apron 3.

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slipsnifter wrote:
Brubiac wrote:
slipsnifter wrote: there is a big chance AF1 will arrive at ABELAG.
Nope, can't tell more. Sorry
Idd, hey will NOT arrive at ABELAG, the only thing I can say, try to get a view of apron 3.
Roger :)

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I think I've found the solution : Today's UA flight was cancelled, so they probably send an additional second flight tomorrow to replace the flight of today.

But, it's strange that they use the same flight number for both flighs...

Regards, Robin Bamps.

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APRON 3? can an aircraft of that size dock at apron 3?

the only good view of that apron is on the roof of front park 2, in the main building right under the old tower (restricted area but witha bit of luck you won't get caught.) Or outside the airport next to the 25L, which could also mean that he will be landing on that runway also...

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druptown wrote:APRON 3? can an aircraft of that size dock at apron 3?
Of course, don't you remember Sabena? Apron 3 is the oldest apron, from the Sabena 747 era 8)
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that is from before my spotting days...

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Post by RobinZartos »

There are 3 United Airlines-flights sheduled for tomorrow :

B767-300 :

20/02 04:35 SanFrancisco via Washington UA 950

B767-300 :

20/02 07:15 SanFrancisco via Washington UA 950

B777-200 :

20/02 10:35

I suppose that the unregular flight at 04:35 is the flight that was cancelled today?

Edit : Sorry, i didn't see that Robin Bamps already mentioned this information.

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Post by Apuneger »

Something tells me that they've chosen Apron 3 since it's one of the most difficult sites to get a look at from landside.

Almost no way of getting a decent photo from within the old building. I don't know how good the apron is visible from the Front PArk, but you the view is obstructed by the pier leading to the satellite.

AFAIK the best way to get a decent photo is go to the sand hills along 25L/07R and get out the best zoom lens you've got...

And, if you want to get a photo, monday and tuesday are the only days to give it a try according to the info I've got.

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Post by BieleAlbatrosy »

Heared (from airport security) that Bush would be landing on 25L, because of the ADB An-124next to 25R. In case of emergency or what ever, AF1 has to be able to taxi immediately to the beginning of the runway again and take-off again. The ADB An-124 is standing 5m in the way and BIAC doesn't want to move the Antonov because they are afraid to damage it (special tow-bar needed and probably no type-rated persons to sit in the cockpit while towing) and then they would have to pay for the damage caused. But then I'm also questioning myself, why can't they just use the Bravo exits and the outer taxiway to return to the beginning of 25R :?: And also, on 25L he would have to backtrack...
So around 20h Bush's wife should land and around 21h Bush himself should land according to my info-sources. Hopefully 2 VC-25's, like in Paris with the D-Day-memorial :-)

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Post by RobinZartos »

Acoording to information by Jordi Steeno (member brusselsairport), the United Airlines-flight operated by a B777-200 that would arrive at 10:35 is cancelled and replaced by the United Airlines-flight with a B767-300 at 04:35 this night...

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Post by Apuneger »

Thanks for the info, Robin. Seems like this whole thing is getting quite spoiled (for us that is) by bad timing, bad places and probably even bad weather. Oh well, life goes on...

At least this will give me some time for PHNL-KLAX in my virtual 737 then :D

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Post by Kapitein »

UA950 was still standing in IAD at 0600 LT, so probably that's the reason of this unusual arrivaltime at 0435.

The 777 is coming from KADW as UA9901 and you can call it a charterflight.

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Post by Zorba »

Guys,

This is getting very complicated!

First Jordi sais he B777 won't come (what sources?) and Brubiac sais he comes ... Who is right?
Tot hier en verder

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druptown wrote:restricted area but witha bit of luck you won't get caught.
If I where you, I won't try it. The US is watching everyone and everything

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Post by RobinZartos »

Hmm, i'm very implicated now.

Jordi thinks that the United 777-flight would be replaced by the 767-flight at 04:35, altough i think member Brubiac is right. Maybe there is still some hope !

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I have more confidence in Brubiac than Jordi, to be honest. But we'll see, right?

Anyway, since AF1 will be parked at Apron 3, is it good to assume it could use 25L for takeoff next wednesday if winds come from the west?

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Post by waldova »

When coming to the airport today I saw a sign stating that the A201 will be closed in the direction of EVERE starting from 7am till 22pm.

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Coincidence or not... tomorrow between 09:10 and 10:00, and between 13:00 and 13:30, there are no scheduled flights planned to arrive at BRU according to the BIAC-website.

Maybe we can expect some nice stuff inbetween ?

Regards, Robin Bamps.

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Post by Bounder »

Coincidence or not, the beast will land in the early evening, hence the F-16's scrambled at approx 18hrs and the VFR flights prohibited from 1900hrs till 2200

Oh and another thing, about the runway use, if a singapore 744 can land and take off like all the other planes even not using the Wiskey taxiway, AF1 can also. And Rwy25L is much more accessable and thus much available for terrorist actions :)
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