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athos wrote: Comet,

"I am regarded as untrainable and therefore unemployable in Britain"

Looks strange to me. If someone wants to work even tough it's below what he was trained for, you should find work. The most important thing is, find work and prove you are able to work.
Athos - not only is it strange it is bloody maddening :evil: I will go :offtopic: to answer your question and say why I am regarded as "unemployable" and "untrainable".

I left college aged 18 - back then employers would only provide training for 16-17 year olds. They had the "Youth Training Scheme" and if you weren't eligible for that (ie if you were 18 or above) you were expected to have gained two years experience in employment. As I left school at 18 this was impossible for me. I was told by employers that they would only train people who were under the age of 18.

When I reached the age of 20, the fashionable training age became 16-18 (why wasn't it like that when I was 18) and you were regarded as too old at age 19.

This continued until I was 27, when the Blair government were voted in. Blair introduced the "New Deal" for unemployed 18-24 year olds, and provided a financial incentive for employers to take on people under 24, which meant that people over 24 had no chance of finding work if they were unemployed. People over 25 can join the New Deal, but only if they have been out of work for 18 consecutive months (if you are under 25 you only need to be out of work for 6 months :twisted: ) And then the employer receives no allowance for training towards a qualification, unlike with the under 25s.

Hot on the heels of the New Deal came the hideous Modern Apprenticeship scheme, again for people under 25. At the same time, funding for many work schemes for over 25s was scrapped by the Blair government. From September, it was announced that the upper age limit for the Modern Apprenticeship would be axed and anyone could do one. But of course there is a catch - there is only funding available for apprentices under the age of 25, which means that no employer will train someone over 25 at their own cost when they can have someone younger and it won't cost a penny :evil:

The Blair government has announced it will outlaw age discrimination in the workplace, but what the hell is the point when there is the legalised discrimination like New Deal and Modern :censored: Apprenticeships?

And what really p*sses me off is that anyone out of work is automatically labelled as "idle work shy layabouts". I want to work, I love to work, but thanks to Tony :censored: Blair I will never have trhe opportunity to work because I am over twenty :censored: five!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Which year for you airbuske? :-)

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To find out more about govenment-sponsored ageism by the Blair government, visits these sites:

http://www.newdeal.gov.uk/

http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/

More proof of the bloody legalised discrimination English unemployed people have to endure http://www.connexions.gov.uk/jobs4u/fur ... rentID=420

Nobody must EVER refer to me as bloody "work shy".
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Comet,

I don't think this is off-topic.

Very strange "unemployable" and "untrainable".
Even people much older then you are, have a change to follow a training to find a new job.

I mean here in Belgium.

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athos wrote:Which year for you airbuske? :-)
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I'm in "Latin Maths" @ the Sint Albertuscollege in Haasrode.

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Since the beginning of January: work.
Before: school, and a few weeks of interimjobs. 8)

Greets,

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I am still at school, I am doing a the first of 2 converting years of a Batchelor(technical) to a master (science) degree. Normally( If everything will went ok), next year I will be Master in the Automatisation.

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Also, here in Britain it is perfectly legal for your employer to fire you purely because of your age, and replace you with someone younger. Blair's obsession with youth has condemned many working age people to the scrapheap (in Glasgow one third of the working age population is out of work thanks to Blair's legalised discrimination against those over 25). It once happened to me - finished with immediate effect so my job could go to a 20 year old.

It happened also to colleagues of mine who were suddenly told that their jobs were no longer theirs and were given instead to bloody school leavers.

The other day I looked on some local college websites to see what they offered for the unemployed, with regard to gaining a qualification to improve job prospects. Those courses which used to be open to anyone out of work for 6 months or longer are now for the under twenty bloody fives only :evil: So is there any wonder I detest living in Britain, and I detest everything that Blair stands for?
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It once happened to me - finished with immediate effect so my job could go to a 20 year old.
After this I phoned up the workplace to sort something out, and the stupid little cow who stole my job answered the phone. I took great pleasure in talking to her like she was a piece of sh*t I had scraped off my shoe and then slammed the phone down on her :lol: :twisted:

A while after, I filled in an application form for a job. When it came to saying the reason I had left my previous job I wrote "I was kicked out to make way for a 20 year old bimbo on New Deal". There was hassle at the Job Centre, but I put in an appeal and raged about age discrimination against the over 25s preventing me from getting or keeping a job and I won!
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airbuske,

So is my daughter Sarah :-)

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He asked my : "Why do you have to study for becoming a criminal?"
lol :laugh: That's a good one.

For the records I'm still studying. I'm in the third year of civil engineer in mechanics.

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Airbuske,

Success with your exam "criminology" coming Thursday :-)

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I go to High School right now since I'm only 15. This Summer, while I am off of school I will get a job working for my dad.
Onward and Upward...

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I work for a leading aviation fuel company and am currently pursuing my Phd.

Well i read it somewhere that BE CURIOUS ALWAYS. FOR KNOWLEDGE WILL NOT ACQUIRE YOU, YOU MUST ACQUIRE IT.
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Airbuske,

I hope you passed your exam "criminology" .

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I´m 3rd year TEW (Applied Economical sciences) at the University of Gent ... but for 1 year in Switzerland with Erasmus. :)

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