Will KLM order the 7E7?

KLMCityhopper · Post by **KLMCityhopper** » 09 Jan 2005, 14:14

In the last few years, KLM has revised its fleet, selling all the older aircraft, and renewing these with newer aircraft. The 747-300 was replaced with 777's, and the 767 will be replaced by the A330. If any of you have noticed, the A330 order was only 6, while there are 12 767 aircraft. This ofcource could be doubled for fleet commonality. The 777 alreaddy includes 10 aircraft, and 2 were ordered extra. The MD-11 would also be replaced, yet the new aicraft was never annouced. Would this be replaced by the A330 too? Wouldn't the Airbus order be much bigger than 6 them? More like 24?

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 09 Jan 2005, 14:49

The MD11 will serve with KLM untill atleast 2012, so the don't have to decide on a replacement yet...

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 10 Jan 2005, 16:32

I could also think that the 777 is replacing the MD-11 becuase they have similar range and capacities. I think that KLM would eventually order the 7E7 to replace it's 767's. KLM is a pretty good Boeing customer and the 767's will need replacing soon.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 11 Jan 2005, 00:24

Knight255 wrote:I could also think that the 777 is replacing the MD-11 becuase they have similar range and capacities. I think that KLM would eventually order the 7E7 to replace it's 767's. KLM is a pretty good Boeing customer and the 767's will need replacing soon.

As KlMcityhopper said in the first post, the 767's are being replaced by A332's...

CAI1 · Post by **CAI1** » 11 Jan 2005, 01:21

Hello everybody
This is my first day posting in this colorful & informative web site. I disagree with posting a poll about if KLM is going to buy such & such type of plane. It has no consequence, only KLM management decides on thtat. I agree with polls that ask for preferences.

AN124 · Post by **AN124** » 11 Jan 2005, 08:06

KLM placed a mixed order of B777's and A332's to replace it's MD11 and B767 fleet.

At this point in time there's no reason why KLM would order the 7E7 as they already planned the replacement of their fleet for the coming years.

Best Regards,
Yvo

BP · Post by BP » 11 Jan 2005, 20:06

I would like to know why the Airbus A350, wasnt mentioned in the poll?

KLMs future fleet replacement will most likely be influenced by Air France and NWA decisions. In this time and age loyalty to an Airline manufacturer rarely exists as we have seen in the past. What it does come down to is Price, Performance, and Assistance and many times even goverment pressure.

Flying_Dutchman · Post by **Flying_Dutchman** » 11 Jan 2005, 20:50

BP wrote:...KLMs future fleet replacement will most likely be influenced by Air France and NWA decisions...

I don't think NWA has any influence on KLM. NWA is simply just a partner of KLM, while Air France the mother is of her. I personally don't know by which aircraft KLM will replace her MD-11s, but I've heard somewhere on the other forums KLM is looking for the B7E7

,but further when the time has come KLM is not KLM anymore, I'm afraid, and the decision will be taken by Air France, I think.

BP · Post by BP » 12 Jan 2005, 09:58

I beleive that the 7E7 would work well in the KLM fleet, although i beleive that it doesnt offer enough capacity to be a direct substitute the MD 11. In a typical three class, the 7E7-900 would seat 257. As for the A350-900 this would be able to seat 285 in a three class arrangemants and also provide the same range as the B7E7. Considering KLM close ties with Air France and NWA i would not be suprised to see a joint order by the three so as to get a better deal.

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