SN Airbus damaged !

JetB · Post by **JetB** » 09 Jan 2005, 08:32

Hey friends,

I wasn't on line yesterday so I hope this isn't old news !.
But yesterday (Saterday 08/01 ) an SN Brussels Airlines Airbus ready for its flight to the African Continent was damaged and towed to Sabena Technics.

Handling company BGS hit the AC with there equipment, damaging the aircraft. Result was a gap in the fuselage ( about 15 cm ).

Word is that BGS was using broken Aviapartner equipment and could not stop on time.

Who knows more, maybe somebody can make a few pictures ?.

Andries · Post by **Andries** » 09 Jan 2005, 09:46

Well, yesterday, this was posted :

https://www.aviation24.be/postt8106.html

I suppose it's the same thing ... I hope BGS has got some good ensurrance and the Airbus will be airborne again soon.

Greetz,

Andries

Post by **sn26567** » 09 Jan 2005, 09:56

It seems that the damage was repaired quickly. In BIAC's today's arrivals, all three A330s are arriving, one of which with some 6 hours delay:

9/01 06:40 Kigali via Nairobi SN 463/AA 7808 Delayed 12:19 A330

In BIAC's departures, one of the three A330 flights is slightly delayed and its flight number changed (change of itinerary?):

09/01 11:35 Dakar via Banjul SN 1203 Delayed 14:30 A330

Post by **Kapitein** » 09 Jan 2005, 10:56

@ Andries,
what you mentioned wasn't the same thing.
The aircraft yesterday, OO-SFN, was hit with a container near the rear cargo door. They towed the aircaft to the hangar and it departed later with some delay.

BGS/Avia is normally not allowed to use equipment of Avia/BGS.

@sn26567

SNBA does it all the time when 1 of the Africaflights is a lot delayed. But I don't know what the exact reason is for that.

Robin_Bamps · Post by **Robin_Bamps** » 09 Jan 2005, 12:57

SN463 finally landed at 12:25 according to BIAC Arrival page.

Regards, Robin Bamps.

Post by **Bruspotter** » 09 Jan 2005, 15:26

Hello

Well,for so far as i know that's sure the 3th time that an SN330 had some
damage.

-The accident with the Thomas Cook A320 and the SN 333.
-The last time i saw one on the maintenance apron. (OO-SFN?)
-and now this.

Well , one thing is sure those Sabena Technics guys always have something big to fix, every time.

Best regards: Yannick

regi · Post by **regi** » 09 Jan 2005, 15:33

3M tape is a great product

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 09 Jan 2005, 19:11

3M tape is a great product

But not for repairing a fuselage.

It is "good" that the aircrafts are still made of aluminium. A small damage can be detected by viewing. If you use composites the damage can be in one of the lower layers of the sheet. So no visual control, if there are some cowboys that are loading the aircraft and hit it but don't report it you could have not so a nice problem. The aircraft can be decompressed in midair by the hole, the sheet loses its strength there.
If the time to repair was 6 hours they did a quick repair, so they putted a sheet of metal on top of the gap. So for the spotters you can probably see the place where the gap was.

Greetz,

Dave

Post by **Kapitein** » 10 Jan 2005, 11:26

Nope, it's just in dark blue part

http://coppermine.luchtzak.be/displayim ... ?pos=-4137

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 10 Jan 2005, 14:02

liebensd wrote: It is "good" that the aircrafts are still made of aluminium. A small damage can be detected by viewing. If you use composites the damage can be in one of the lower layers of the sheet. So no visual control, if there are some cowboys that are loading the aircraft and hit it but don't report it you could have not so a nice problem. The aircraft can be decompressed in midair by the hole, the sheet loses its strength there.
If the time to repair was 6 hours they did a quick repair, so they putted a sheet of metal on top of the gap. So for the spotters you can probably see the place where the gap was.

But composite materials have other very good advantages

Chris

Konus · Post by **Konus** » 11 Jan 2005, 08:08

What happened with the FQ A320 and the SN A330 ?

Thanks for reply

Konus

Post by **Bruspotter** » 11 Jan 2005, 10:52

Hello

Well the SN330 and the FQ320 had a little accident.
It was in March or May or something like that , in 2004.
A Thomas Cook A320 was taxiing to/from the gate, wile a SN330
was standing next to him. Wile taxiing away he hit the SN's engine with
he's stabilo(?) (tail wing). So both aircraft were temporarily out of service.

It was in that period that the 'Beluga' came into BRU for the TC's stabilo(?). And the SN was replaced by an 310 and maybe even other planes.

So that was in short lines what happened. I can't confirm anything,don't
remember that good. Could be that more parts of both aircrafts were damaged, but the two mentioned parts were surely damaged.

I guess the FQ320 was OO-TCI and the SN330 the OO-SFN (no confirmation)?

Best regards: Yannick

Xyckie · Post by **Xyckie** » 11 Jan 2005, 10:58

The beluga also came for the stabilo of a Thomas Cook A320 when it had an accident with the southern peer of the airport. Aviapartner had towed the aircraft to the satelite but forgot to set the chocks...the A320 rolled backwards with its tail in a bridge of the old peer...

It was quite an impressive sight.

Post by **Bruspotter** » 11 Jan 2005, 11:59

Hello

Xyckie: Well it must have been amazing to see. Has it have
anything to do with it that the C-satelite is used so less???

RYR8023: Well it could have been the OO-TCC. Probably will
be, i don't know the reg. that good anymore. But a fact was that both;
The SN333 AND the FQ320 were damaged. So if it was caused by ground equipment the both planes wouldn't have been damaged so hard. But once again; .......that's what i heard about it , and i saw pictures...but i wasn't that good informed those days.(I didn't knowed the thing called 'Luchtzak forums' yet.). I did saw the Beluga flying over Mechelen when i was on a school trip. But it could be that there were 2 FQ320 accidentsbecause the Beluga was in for a second time at BRU. So...

Best regards: Yannick

Sabena_690 · Post by **Sabena_690** » 11 Jan 2005, 12:48

@Bruspotter: aren't you confusing with the incident between the SLR B733 and the SN A330 a few years ago?

Maybe I forgot, but I don't remember an incident between a TCW A320 and an SN A333 a few months ago.

Post by **Kapitein** » 11 Jan 2005, 13:08

Sabena_690 wrote:@Bruspotter: aren't you confusing with the incident between the SLR B733 and the SN A330 a few years ago?

Maybe I forgot, but I don't remember an incident between a TCW A320 and an SN A333 a few months ago.

I think the same as you Frederic. This incident was with OO-SFM and OO-SBZ

The Beluga came to fly the broken stabilo over to TLS (18/05/04). The second time she came, they brought it back.
It was indeed OO-TCC that hit the noseloader at finger South.

janhuub · Post by **janhuub** » 11 Jan 2005, 14:37

There has never been an incident between an FQ 320 and an SN 330.
OO-TCC went for a walkabout last year, and it hit a finger at the old terminal, causing damage to the THS and the right wing.

Beluga came twice to bring and return the THS, that has been removed and reinstalled by SABENA technics.

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 12 Jan 2005, 08:44

It nice that the damage was noted in time and repaired before any considerable damage was caused to both life and property.

Post by **Bruspotter** » 12 Jan 2005, 15:27

Hello everyone!

Afterworhts it looks like it really didn't happened. Because, if a that large
amount of people all say it isn't. Alto i did found the picture that caused
my confusion. If you have a look at it you can clearly see that the FQ320,
as well as the SN333 are damaged (SN at the engine),they're standing in front of each other , so that it really looks like an accident between two planes. It was then that some guys (don't ask me who...i don't remember anymore) told me that the FQ crashed against the SN333.

Have a look at the picture; BE HONEST! DOESN'T IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD AN ACCIDENT??????

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/537774/M/

Again, i didn't knew luchtzak yet, so i wasn't that good informed.
And sorry for the confusion!

Best regards: Yannick