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Let's update on LCC's (Low Cost carriers)

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As we announced a big bloodbath in Fall, its maybe a good idea to make an inventory:
First a list of european LCC's or would be LCC. (correct me if I missed one)

Air 2000
Air Andalucia
Aer Arann
Air Baltic
Air Berlin
Air Finland
Air Luxor Lite
Air Polonia
Air Scotland
Air Service Plus
Air Southwest
Air Wales
Alpi Eagle
Baboo
Basiq Ai
Blue1
BMI Baby
British European
BudgetAir
Condor
Corendon
EasyJet
EU Jet
Evolavia
Excel Airways
Fare4U
Fly Dba
Fly Me
Fly West
Germania Express
German Wings
Globespan
Hapag Lloyd Express
Hellas Jet
Helvetic Airways
Iceland Express
InterSky
Jet2
JetX
LTU
Maersk Air
Meridiana
Monarch Airlines
My Travel Lite
Nordic Airlink
Norwegian Air Shuttle
Onur Air
Ryanair
Scandjet
SkyEurope
Smart Wings
Snalskjutsen
SnowFlake Airlines
Sterling
Sun Express
Swedline
ThomsonFly
Virgin Express
VolareWeb
Vueling Airlines
Windjet Vola
Wizz Air

Expected LCC's in european skies
Hop (Starting second half 2004)
Spirit Of Balkan (Starting 2005)

Fallen out of the european skies
Aeris Bankrupt on 07Nov2003
Agent Air Never started
Air Bosnia Bankrupt
Air Catalunya Bankrupt
Air Freedom Bankrupt December2003
Air Littoral Bankrupt on 15Feb2004
Airlib Express Bankrupt
Azzurra Air Bankrupt July2004
BerlinJet Bankrupt
exx Air Bankrupt Sep2004
BuzzAway Sold by KLM to Ryanair
Carpat Air Bankrupt
Dream Air Never realized their Dream
Duo Bankrupt on 01May2004
Fairline Austria Bankrupt on 09Jun2004
Fly Eco Will probably never start
Flying Finn Bankrupt on 27Jan2004
Free Airways Never started
Fresh Aer Bankrupt
GetJet Poland Never started
Go Fly Sold by British Airways to EasyJet
Goodjet Bankrupt
Jet Magic Bankrupt 28Jan2004
Jetgreen Bankrupt on Wed.12May2004 after 1 week flying!
JetsSky Never started, probably a scam! (Jan2004)
Low Fare Jet Bankrupt
Now Bankrupt May2004
Silesian Air Never started
Skynet Airlines Bankrupt 26May2004 (booking engine too slow!)
V Bird Bankrupt 07Oct2004
White Eagle Sold entire 737 fleet
Windjet Never started NOT SO, says Blackhawk 29NOV2004

Asian LCC's or wb's.
Aero Asia
Air Arabia
Air Asia
Air Blue
Air Deccan
Bangkok Air
Citilink
Freedom Air
Jetstar
Lion Air
Nok Air
One-Two-Go
Origin Pacific Airways
Skymark Airlines
Skynet Asia Airways
Tiger Airways
Valuair
Virgin Blue

Expected in the australian and asian skies
Adam Air (Starting 2005)
JetstarAsia (Starting 2005)
KingFisher (Starting 2005)

Fallen out of the australian and asian skies
Air Nauru Bankrupt
Air One (India) Never started
Air (Malaysia) Never started
BackpackersXpress Never started
Diet Jet (Thailand) Never started
Impulse Airlines Bankrupt
SkyAsia (Thailand) Never started
Transgulf Express (Gulf Area) Never started


African LCC's or wb's
1Time
Kulula

Expected in the african skies
Atlas Blue

Canadian LCC's or wb's.
CanJet
HMY Airways
JetsGo Airlines
Tango Airlines
Westjet
Zip

USA LCC's or wb's.
AirTran
Allegiant Air
America West
American Trans Air (ATA)
Frontier Airlines
Independence Air
Interstate Jet
JetBlue Airways
Midwest Express
Song Air
Southeast Airlines
Southwest Airlines
Spirit Airlines
Sun Country Airlines
Ted
USA 3000 Airlines

Expected in the USA and canadian skies
Canada West Airlines
Independence Air (Starting Spring 2004)
Virgin USA (Starting Second half 2004)

lLCC's in the southamerican skies or wb's
Bra
Gol
U Air

Expected in the middle eastern skies
Menajet (Sstarting 2004)
Smartjet Airways (Starting 2005)

Now you never asked yourself who started what? (And I often wonder why)

in Asia
Citilink started by Garuda
Nok Air started by Thai Airways
Tiger Airways started by Singapore Airlines


in Europe
Basiq Air started by KLM
Fare4U started by Air Malta
Snowflake started by Scandinavian Airlines

in South Pacific
Freedom Air started by Air New Zealand
Jetstar started by Qantas

in USA
Song Air started by Delta Airlines

in Canada
Tango Airliness tarted by Air Canada
Ted started by United Airlines

Added information is most welcome, as well as new categories. I would like to make a new category: Owned by (who owns that LCC?)
Would it be possible add the logo and slogan of the LCC's? Or dare we ask Dave for database? Then we could add website, date operation start/end, fleet, etc, etc....
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Post by Avro »

Very nice idea Fons.

According to this article, you should put US Airways in the LCC list aswell ;)

Chris

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Post by EBAW_flyer »

in USA
Song Air started by Delta Airlines
Don't forget Ted by United.

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EBAW_flyer wrote:
in USA
Song Air started by Delta Airlines
Don't forget Ted by United.
My mistake, I put it under Canada
Ted started by United Airlines .....

Making alpha order is not easy... a,b,c.... I know... :oops:

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Post by SN30952 »

Avro wrote:Very nice idea Fons.
According to this article, you should put US Airways in the LCC list aswell ;)
Chris
ok
USAir plan to be Low-Cost Carrier or wb, as I listed some. :wink:
PS
It would be nice to have that in an interactive database?

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Post by Ozzie1969 »

You forgot Siem Reap Airways, a subsidiary of Bangkok Air, which flies to and in Cambodia. I've flown it, and some of their planes have Siem Reap on one side of the fuselage, and Bangkok Air on the other.

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Post by Flying_Dutchman »

Hi, nice statestics. I don't know whether domestic LCC's are welcome too, but otherwise I have Starair for you. An Indonesian LCC. www.starair-online.com.

;)

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Post by Buzz »

very nice!

Air 2000 has become First Choice for some time now & Independence Air has started a few months ago (and will probably shut down in a few months...)

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My Air

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How do you say "Amaai"'* in Italian
My Air (vola a prezzi strepitosi..., fly all over Italy and Europe at sensational prices)
My Car
My Insurance
My Hotel
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Clicca qui
btw Dave and I are working on the one and only database of LCC's of the world, coming soon.

* in thai amaai means again, si si!

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Post by TCAS_climb »

Hellas Jet will probably be one of the next LCC to go down the tube: they lose 50.000 euros/day and Cyprus Airways is not going to let this happen for too long now.

MyWay Airlines might be in trouble with the Italian justice. The ties with Volare (bankrupt in Italy) and Volar (Spain) are not very clear and there's a suspicion of fraud (one company overcharging the other).
http://www.letemps.ch/template/static.a ... jl80pz.xml
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Post by Avro »

But Hellas isn't a LCC IMHO.

They even have a real business class in their A320's.

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Volare are bankrupt
British European are flybe

Who are Budgetair?

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Post by AN124 »

ALso Don;t forget the following LCC's:

AeroFlight
Fly Niki
Hello

and if I'm not mistaken Fly Baboo is also a LCC.

Best Regards,
Yvo

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AN124 wrote:Fly Baboo is also a LCC
Fly Baboo?? :?: Now that's new for me :lol: Where does it fly from?

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Post by AN124 »

They really do exist. To be honest I wouldn't knew about them myself if their first aircraft wasn't delivered via MST.

Their timetable can be found overhere: http://www.flybaboo.com/timetable/vce.html

And this is how their planes look like: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/673739/L/

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Post by Buzz »

We would have to agree on the defenition of a LCC before you can make a database...

What about AerLingus? What about USairways? I would say Bussiness class=> no LCC

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Post by danieln »

Some analysts use the argument that a LCC must at least offer 40% or 50% of it's seats at the lowest fare.

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ELFAA should know?

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Buzz wrote:We would have to agree on the defenition of a LCC before you can make a database... I would say Bussiness class=> no LCC
danieln wrote:Some analysts use the argument that a LCC must at least offer 40% or 50% of it's seats at the lowest fare.

As we all know there are more than these two ways of making a definition:
One consists of making a positive definition, meaning that the definition describes what the subject is. (Like some laws: Every Belgian needs an ID card)
The other consists of making a negative definition, meaning that the definition describes what the subject is NOT. (Like some laws: everything that is not forbidden is allowed...)

There is also a difference between a low frills airline** and a low fares airline.
This suggests that an LCC can carry business class....
"low fares airlines" does not mean that costs are NOT well under control.
Low fares services in Europe currently account for approximately 24% of scheduled air services

Initially, Low Cost Carriers were geared more towards holiday trips than towards business travel, due to the location of the airports, among other reasons. Business travellers are clearly starting to use LCC's more often as time goes by. There are a variety of reasons for this shift. Often, passengers will book a private holiday with a LCC to acquire experience. If satisfied, they may decide to book a LCC for their next business trip. Other important reasons include the lower prices and improved schedules (several flights per day). Business travellers tend to prefer a LCC for short-haul European flights, the United Kingdom being the most popular destination.

According to the Financial Times, Wolfang Kurth*, president of European Low Fares Airlines Association, expects no-frills operators to carry as many as 80-m passengers in Europe in 2004 — up from 47-m last year.

Deduction: if WK makes a projection of the number of passengers flown by LCC in Europe in 2004, he will base his figure on a definition of LCC, or at least on some criteria.
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www.elfaa.com

ELFAA was launched in January 2004. None of ELFAA’s members belong to the Airline Group.

The low fares business model has been a key driver in the successful liberalisation of the European air transport sector and has fulfilled all of the objectives set by the European Commission for liberalisation including forcing the traditional flag carrier airlines to become more efficient and offer lower prices to consumers. ELFAA says.
Some 59% of the passengers carried by the low fares sector were new passengers to aviation.
Some 71% would not have travelled were it not for low fares.

*Wolfgang Kurth, president of ELFAA and CEO of the German low cost airline Hapag-Lloyd Express. There is the high level of interest from several regional airports in joining ELFAA within the next couple of months, he said in last October. "This shows that airports are coming to understand the needs and potential of low fares airlines and that Brussels too, will have to take the requirements and demands of the entire European low cost industry - not just Airlines, but Airports and suppliers as well - much more seriously than before."

ELFAA Members include: Air Berlin, BasiqAir, Transavia, flybe, Sky Europe, Ryanair, Sverige Flyg, Volareweb, Sterling, Hapag-Lloyd Express, wizzair and Air Polonia.

For people (students?) working on the subject:
Press packs available by e-mailing: info@elfaa.com
Website at : www.elfaa.com
Press office : Phone +49-511-5900-500, Fax +49-511-5900-509

European Low Fares Airlines Association
Schuman Rondpunt 6 PB 5
B-1040 Brussel
Tel: +32 (0)2 234 63 86 | Fax: +32 (0)2 234 79 11


**easyJet fits in the definition "low frills airline"

PS When searching with Google for LCC, you will directed to.... luchtzak.be, so you came to the right place. Thanks.

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The Wikipedia definition

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A LCC, low-cost carrier (also known as a no-frills or discount carrier) is an airline that offers low fares but eliminates most traditional passenger services. Typical LCC business model practices include:

* a single passenger class
* a single type of airplane, (reducing training and servicing costs)
* a simple fare scheme (typically fares increase as the plane fills up, which rewards early reservations, known as "yield management")
* unreserved seating (encouraging passengers to board early and quickly)
* flying to cheaper, less congested secondary airports (avoiding air traffic delays and taking advantage of lower landing fees)
* short flights and fast turnaround times (allowing maximum utilization of planes)
* simplified routes, emphasizing point-to-point transit instead of transfers at hubs (again enhancing aircraft utilization)
* emphasis on direct sales of tickets, especially over the Internet (avoiding fees and commissions paid to travel agents and corporate booking systems)
* employees working in multiple roles, for instance flight attendants also cleaning the aircraft or working as gate agents (limiting personnel costs)
* No "Free" in-flight catering and other "complimentary" services ( replaced by optional paid-for in-flight food and drink).

We could start working on that?

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Re: The Wikipedia definition

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SN30952 wrote:A LCC, low-cost carrier (also known as a no-frills or discount carrier) is an airline that offers low fares but eliminates most traditional passenger services. Typical LCC business model practices include:

* a single passenger class
* a single type of airplane, (reducing training and servicing costs)
* a simple fare scheme (typically fares increase as the plane fills up, which rewards early reservations, known as "yield management")
* unreserved seating (encouraging passengers to board early and quickly)
* flying to cheaper, less congested secondary airports (avoiding air traffic delays and taking advantage of lower landing fees)
* short flights and fast turnaround times (allowing maximum utilization of planes)
* simplified routes, emphasizing point-to-point transit instead of transfers at hubs (again enhancing aircraft utilization)
* emphasis on direct sales of tickets, especially over the Internet (avoiding fees and commissions paid to travel agents and corporate booking systems)
* employees working in multiple roles, for instance flight attendants also cleaning the aircraft or working as gate agents (limiting personnel costs)
* No "Free" in-flight catering and other "complimentary" services ( replaced by optional paid-for in-flight food and drink).

We could start working on that?
I would say that's about right, except the single type of airplane... That would rule out EasyJet, AirBerlin, JetBlue, ...

USairways can say it wants to be LCC, but with so many diffent planes & Bussinessclass service across the network, I think you can't really ever count it in the LCC, no mather how much the change....

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