Hi All,
Just picked this up, a MK Airlines 747F has gone off the end of the runway at Halifax, cutting power lines and taking out the runway lights, 7 crew on board, no idea of injuries/survivors yet, fingers crossed they got out ...
Tony
MK Airlines 747 crashes Halifax , Canada
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sad to hear that 
It's just a matter of minutes now ...
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 41014.html
It's just a matter of minutes now ...
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 41014.html
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B744skipper
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B744skipper wrote:Damn, this is very sad news to hear.
At first, I hope everything with the crew and other people on board will be alright.
At second, less important, I hope that the B747 is not damaged to much, or is a write off.
Rumours talk about a tailstrike and the the tail-section broke off the plane .... an several explosions. Doesn't sound very good ...
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B744skipper
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Thanks for the info Bottie, it indeed sounds very bad.Bottie wrote:B744skipper wrote:Damn, this is very sad news to hear.
At first, I hope everything with the crew and other people on board will be alright.
At second, less important, I hope that the B747 is not damaged to much, or is a write off.
Rumours talk about a tailstrike and the the tail-section broke off the plane .... an several explosions. Doesn't sound very good ...
I really hope they got out alive from that inferno.
They are keeping up a good crash record :
14-OCT-2004 Boeing 747-246F crashed at Halifax
27-NOV-2001 Boeing 747-246F 9G-MKI crashed at Port Harcourt
17-DEC-1996 DC-8-55F 9G-MKD crashed in Nigeria at Port Harcourt
15-FEB-1992 DC-8-64F 9G-MKB crashed in Nigeria at Kano
Imagine if this would hapen at Brussels for e.g. on runway 25R ?
8O
14-OCT-2004 Boeing 747-246F crashed at Halifax
27-NOV-2001 Boeing 747-246F 9G-MKI crashed at Port Harcourt
17-DEC-1996 DC-8-55F 9G-MKD crashed in Nigeria at Port Harcourt
15-FEB-1992 DC-8-64F 9G-MKB crashed in Nigeria at Kano
Imagine if this would hapen at Brussels for e.g. on runway 25R ?
8Oon http://www.canada.com/maritimes/news/st ... 8037ae0554
Halifax airport slowly reopening after deadly jet crash
Seven crewman feared dead
Mike Tutton
Canadian Press
October 14, 2004
A Boeing 747 cargo jet bound for Spain with seven crew members aboard crashed into a quarry at the end of a runway at Halifax International Airport early Thursday.
The fate of the crew was not known, but a spokesman for MK Airlines of Britain said the situation looked grim.
"I understand from our people on the ground in Halifax that there may be no survivors," said Steve Anderson.
Initial reports from the scene suggest the jet's tail hit Runway 06 during takeoff before crashing into a wooded area near an industrial park. Pictures from the scene show a orange glow in the sky not far from a rural road.
The weather at the time was good with clear, pre-dawn skys.
The aircraft, which stopped in Halifax to refuel, was loaded with tractors, lobsters and fish.
"There was a fire at the aircraft," said RCMP Const. Joe Taplin. "Emergency crews are done there right now and their fighting a fire at the aircraft."
Witness Peter Lewis was dropping off his wife at the airport and saw two explosions that resembled heat lightning.
"As we were approaching we saw what I thought was heat lighting 'cause I told everyone in the car that we've got heat lightning in the sky," he told radio station CJCH.
"That was only a quick one followed by a second one that was bigger. And then we seen a very bright orange light and I mean bright. It took up the whole sky."
"RCMP and emergency firefighters are on site," said airport spokesman Pat Chapman.
Chapman and Taplin said seven crew members were on the aircraft but it was not known whether they survived.
An official at the Queen Elizabeth II Health Science Centre said they were put on Code Orange, meaning they had to prepare for mass casualties. However, the Code Orange was later called off and no casualties were brought to the hospital.
The airport has re-opened and flights were resuming on a limited basis. The airport is located in a remote area outside city limits.
Cab drivers taking passengers to the airport reported that they had been turned back.
"All the information that we can get is the airport is closed for the day," said cab company owner Angus McGillivary. "We got a cargo plane down that's taken down the power at the airport."
He said his drivers could not see anything except for a darkened airport.
"It's completely black," said McGillivary. "There's no runway lights. There's no tower lights."
The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is assembling a team of investigators in Ottawa, said spokesman John Cottreau. The board is an independent agency that investigates transportation accidents and prepares incident reports.
The MK Airlines spokesman said the company had never had problems with this particular aircraft.
Halifax airport slowly reopening after deadly jet crash
Seven crewman feared dead
Mike Tutton
Canadian Press
October 14, 2004
A Boeing 747 cargo jet bound for Spain with seven crew members aboard crashed into a quarry at the end of a runway at Halifax International Airport early Thursday.
The fate of the crew was not known, but a spokesman for MK Airlines of Britain said the situation looked grim.
"I understand from our people on the ground in Halifax that there may be no survivors," said Steve Anderson.
Initial reports from the scene suggest the jet's tail hit Runway 06 during takeoff before crashing into a wooded area near an industrial park. Pictures from the scene show a orange glow in the sky not far from a rural road.
The weather at the time was good with clear, pre-dawn skys.
The aircraft, which stopped in Halifax to refuel, was loaded with tractors, lobsters and fish.
"There was a fire at the aircraft," said RCMP Const. Joe Taplin. "Emergency crews are done there right now and their fighting a fire at the aircraft."
Witness Peter Lewis was dropping off his wife at the airport and saw two explosions that resembled heat lightning.
"As we were approaching we saw what I thought was heat lighting 'cause I told everyone in the car that we've got heat lightning in the sky," he told radio station CJCH.
"That was only a quick one followed by a second one that was bigger. And then we seen a very bright orange light and I mean bright. It took up the whole sky."
"RCMP and emergency firefighters are on site," said airport spokesman Pat Chapman.
Chapman and Taplin said seven crew members were on the aircraft but it was not known whether they survived.
An official at the Queen Elizabeth II Health Science Centre said they were put on Code Orange, meaning they had to prepare for mass casualties. However, the Code Orange was later called off and no casualties were brought to the hospital.
The airport has re-opened and flights were resuming on a limited basis. The airport is located in a remote area outside city limits.
Cab drivers taking passengers to the airport reported that they had been turned back.
"All the information that we can get is the airport is closed for the day," said cab company owner Angus McGillivary. "We got a cargo plane down that's taken down the power at the airport."
He said his drivers could not see anything except for a darkened airport.
"It's completely black," said McGillivary. "There's no runway lights. There's no tower lights."
The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is assembling a team of investigators in Ottawa, said spokesman John Cottreau. The board is an independent agency that investigates transportation accidents and prepares incident reports.
The MK Airlines spokesman said the company had never had problems with this particular aircraft.
"The MK Airlines spokesman said the company had never had problems with this particular aircraft."
Last picture on A.net:
bigger version: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/689562/L/
Wiloo will certainly say there were problems ... but it could have been maintenance also ...
Last picture on A.net:
bigger version: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/689562/L/
Wiloo will certainly say there were problems ... but it could have been maintenance also ...
747 crash
http://pei.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View ... sh20041014
It appears to have been a tail strike according to the television station on site.
Very Sad
It appears to have been a tail strike according to the television station on site.
Very Sad
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TCAS_climb
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Tailstrikes can do a lot of damage (ask Singapore Airlines), but I doubt it would be the sole cause of this sad accident. A catastrophic failure of the airframe seems unlikely to me at this point, but you cannot rule out any possibility. We'll have to wait for the report of Transport Canada before the importance of the tailstrike can be determined in the chain of events leading to the crash.
BTW, we could also imagine something totally different: overloaded aircraft or bad loading, very slow acceleration, end of runway coming pretty fast, pilots pulls harshly on commands, hits tail, not enough airspeed anyway, aircraft exits the runway.
Sincere condolences to all involved
BTW, we could also imagine something totally different: overloaded aircraft or bad loading, very slow acceleration, end of runway coming pretty fast, pilots pulls harshly on commands, hits tail, not enough airspeed anyway, aircraft exits the runway.
Sincere condolences to all involved
747 crash
CBC Television reports total loss of aircraft, with a full load of fuel, the fire damage is complete, fire officials expect the fire to burn for a couple of hours. The airport has reopened to commercial traffic. Rcmp report that they expect no survivors, search is underway for flight recorders. One witness reported there was a severe tail strike resulting in collapse of the tail section, which may have destroyed all control over elevators and other control surfaces. The reporter on scene said the aircraft may have never have actually become airborne, the debris field extends from the end of the runway into the final resting place of the aircraft.
Taken from a televised report on scene by CBC Canada
Taken from a televised report on scene by CBC Canada