Strike at BRU airport on 1 October from 13:00 to 14:00

pilatus · Post by **pilatus** » 01 Oct 2004, 16:45

Just think what you want, we did not disturb any traffic, it was the choice of BIAC and Belgocontrol to stop activities for 15'. Also the people of the other companies at the airport all came on voluntary base. Even at EAT operations had someone who stayed to keep everything running. I repeat that it was not the intention to discomfort the passengers but just to let the government, management and the rest see that we are behind our job. If you choose to behave as a "sitting duck" well just go for it but we will not. And this will be the last thing I have to say about this action.

Amen

killerwhale65 · Post by **killerwhale65** » 01 Oct 2004, 16:46

guys, what the hell are you complaining about? There hasnt been a single delay at all!!!
I agree with you Pilatus, and i hope for you and all the others that there will be a solution very soon.

and i also hope that everyone blowing hot and cold about possible delays (that have NEVER been there) will lose there jobs very soon! Then you will know what it is to be unemployed

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 01 Oct 2004, 16:50

Pilatus,

I understand you people working at EAT. It must be terrible to live in such an uncertain evironment during several weeks or even months. I understand that you poeple (employees of DHL/EAT) want to show you frustrations and show to everybody that the decision will involve thousands of jobs. I understand all that BUT I don't understand why they wanted to take innocent passengers as hostage to show they anger. NO the innocent passengers shouldn't be punished IT'S the government that should be punished !!!!!!!!!
Striking at the airport won't make those politicians move, believe me !!!

Chris

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 01 Oct 2004, 16:56

Sorry Pilatus you posted your message while I was writing mine so I couldn't see it

pilatus wrote:Just think what you want, we did not disturb any traffic, it was the choice of BIAC and Belgocontrol to stop activities for 15'. Also the people of the other companies at the airport all came on voluntary base. Even at EAT operations had someone who stayed to keep everything running. I repeat that it was not the intention to discomfort the passengers but just to let the government, management and the rest see that we are behind our job.

I wasn't at home and didn't saw TV so I couldn't know that there was no real strike

If you choose to behave as a "sitting duck" well just go for it but we will not.

Of course not, people have to move and to battle in life.

and i also hope that everyone blowing hot and cold about possible delays (that have NEVER been there) will lose there jobs very soon! Then you will know what it is to be unemployed

Killerwhale65,

That's not the point of the discussion. You definitely know that everyone is behind the employees of DHL/EAT, no one ovber here wantes them to lose their job !!!!!!! Nobody said that !!!!

Chris

LX-LGX · Post by **LX-LGX** » 01 Oct 2004, 16:58

Although I reject the strike, I do like the sense of humour of the DHL unions: they've told Belga (the official Belgian press agency) that all departing flights between 13h15 and 13h30 were put on hold: 4 in total.

"In het kader van de vakbondsacties van DHL hebben ook de luchtverkeersleiders van Belgocontrol vrijdagmiddag even het werk neergelegd. Daardoor konden vanuit Zaventem geen vliegtuigen vertrekken tussen 13.15 uur en 13.30 uur. In totaal hebben vier vliegtuigen een kwartier moeten wachten om te kunnen vertrekken. Dat verklaarde woordvoerder Guy Viselé aan het persagentschap Belga."

Well ladies and gentlemen, take a look at http://www.biac.be/departures, where you will see that there were no flights scheduled between 13h16 and 13h39! (Unless they mean that 4 ... DHL flights were put on hold).

01/10 13:00 dep 13:05 Munich LH 5917
01/10 13:05 dep 13:11 Santiago Comp IB 4219
01/10 13:05 dep 13:11 Barcelona SN 5271
01/10 13:10 dep 13:15 Nice TV 306
01/10 13:15 dep 13:22 Zurich LX 779
01/10 13:40 dep 13:56 Heraklion TUB2561
01/10 13:45 dep 13:52 Frankfurt LH 5897
01/10 13:50 dep 14:49 Algiers AH 2061
01/10 13:55 dep 14:18 London LHR BA 403
01/10 14:00 dep 13:58 London LCY VG 155

Post by **sn26567** » 01 Oct 2004, 17:01

Well, this is a nice lively discussion. I will remain neutral here (I'm not flying today, only Monday

), but it is nice to see that you can expose different opinions without insulting each other.

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 01 Oct 2004, 17:34

I am not a union man, but how come I hear less complaints if the railwaymen block the rails for a pay-raise, the postmen go on strike because they are against the Georoute system, the truckers block some highways for better conditions,......

In this case, check-in was suspended for 15min, and this on an off-peak moment, so the delays were minimalized.

I hope that there once will be a law to forbid actions/strikes like this

= sounds like communism

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 01 Oct 2004, 17:46

744rules wrote:I am not a union man, but how come I hear less complaints if the railwaymen block the rails for a pay-raise, the postmen go on strike because they are against the Georoute system, the truckers block some highways for better conditions,......

You hear less because we don't discuss it over here

In this case, check-in was suspended for 15min, and this on an off-peak moment, so the delays were minimalized.

15 minutes is ok but an hour which was originally planned is something different.

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 01 Oct 2004, 18:05

744rules wrote:
I am not a union man, but how come I hear less complaints if the railwaymen block the rails for a pay-raise, the postmen go on strike because they are against the Georoute system, the truckers block some highways for better conditions,......

You hear less because we don't discuss it over here

Just my point Chris.

I just wanted to point out that some people can be quit selfish.

If, for instance, you have to rely on trains for your job, and there are none, you have probs.
I can imagine that there are lot's of train-men that don't care how many nightflights there are, what the noise quota are,......

rotor · Post by **rotor** » 01 Oct 2004, 19:31

A friend worked day and night...a whole year long.
With his hard earned money he planned to go on his first holiday since years today. (Bulgaria)

Can you imagine how they felt when they saw the DHL union man saying in a cool tone that they were going to block roads to the airport and they were going to strike this afternoon?

Anyway, the union foreman didn't bother for his hard earned holiday and he didn't bother either when my friend lost his job last year because he was getting too old. So I think the DHL union lost some sympathy this way.

The public opinion and interest about DHl is, for as far as I can feel in my region, rather low. Same happened to Sabena, media made a daily soap of it...
People only got high sympathy when it was too late and received tv-images of crying sabena employees and last flights honored by fireman or employees walking hand in hand over the apron.

The public blamed the management of Sabena for the closing. The management never really had "a face" on television, nobody remembers their names.
This time I believe people living around the airport region will be blamed for it. They will be "the bad guys" in this story. If DHL closes and we get the same story in the media, the public will strongly remember the "bad guys" complaining about nightflights. So next time they complain about some company flying noisy airplanes, they're on there own.

killerwhale65 · Post by **killerwhale65** » 01 Oct 2004, 20:22

HOEVEEL DECIBEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEL MAG ER WEL? DE CI BEL, DE CI BEL.

HOEVEEL DECIBEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEL MAG ER WEL? DE CI BEL, DE CI BEL.

just superb

Post by **Bruspotter** » 01 Oct 2004, 21:36

Hi folks!

Today was another stiking day at BRU, too bad i didn't
knew it,else i would have go to there today,to simpatize.
Can also believe that some passengers 'll be furious due
the strike. Me myself,would mind that lot... But, not
eveybody thinks like that. Do find it also that i might
be too much to involve people who hasn't got anything
to do with this case,and also a lot of people from
abroad going home. Do find it quite a surprise that they
really strikes,so that the airport was completely perrolised,
it is,anyway,not BIAC's fold, they too want DHL to stay.
Who doesn't?

by the way this is my 50th post. hip hip-hoera!!! :jumpy:

Best regards: Yannick

Post by **sn26567** » 02 Oct 2004, 15:39

744rules wrote:how come I hear less complaints if the railwaymen block the rails for a pay-raise, the postmen go on strike because they are against the Georoute system, the truckers block some highways for better conditions,......

In that case you will hear my voice as well, but in a different forum!