New Browser

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 21 Aug 2004, 21:45

I have just changed my browser to the Mozzilla browser, there are a few differences that I will have to get used to, but, overall I think it is a better one than the I E; anybody care to share their views: Mozzilla versus I E

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 21 Aug 2004, 22:38

I have the Mozilla browser, I think its okay and it doesn't crash as much as IE did. Also, there is less spyware detected on my computer system than when I had IE6, so I am quite pleased with it.

t0m · Post by **t0m** » 21 Aug 2004, 23:02

mozilla is definitely the best, i opt for firefox which is reduced in size a little..

it renders HTML correctly too, where IE falls down

stick with it. the internet will be a better place with less IE users!

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 21 Aug 2004, 23:54

Thank you t0m & comet, the local Net Guide put the Mozilla download onto this months CD. From what I have seen so for it is by far the better option!!!
Even when you put Emoticons into your posts you don't have to switch between pages as you do with I E+ you don't need to refresh the Emoticons, they just keep on being animated I am sold on it even after only a few hours; Long Live Mozilla !!! :thumbsup2:

:mexwave: :jump2:

Post by **luchtzak** » 22 Aug 2004, 01:14

I am using firefox mozilla for a few months now and it really rocks! I had some problems with the BBCode but I downloaded a plug-in for that. And it has been discussed on professional pc forums before that it's safer against virus and hacker-attacks...

t0m · Post by **t0m** » 22 Aug 2004, 09:49

it's nicely cross platform too, i use machines running mac osx, linux and windows, and i install mozilla firefox on all of them, and it functions exactly the same across platforms.. internet explorer is an absolute pain on the mac, and doesn't even exist for linux/unix!

keep with it, and convert some more peeps

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 22 Aug 2004, 11:56

bigjulie wrote:
Even when you put Emoticons into your posts you don't have to switch between pages as you do with I E+ you don't need to refresh the Emoticons, they just keep on being animated I am sold on it even after only a few hours; Long Live Mozilla !!! :thumbsup2: :mexwave: :jump2:

I had forgotten about the easier posting of smilies! It was VC10 who first noticed that because with the IE she was forever having to ask me how to get the smilies back on to post more because the page would disappear after you had put one smilie on, so it has made posting much easier for her and she is more confident to post with the new browser than she was with IE.

Post by **luchtzak** » 03 Feb 2005, 03:01

There is a way to make Firefox faster:

How To Speed Up Firefox (Helpful Vanity)

Posted on 12/12/2004 12:45:50 PM PST by KoRn

Here's something for broadband people that will really speed Firefox up:

1.Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return. Scroll down and look for the following entries:

network.http.pipelining network.http.proxy.pipelining network.http.pipelining.maxrequests

Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading.

2. Alter the entries as follows:

Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true"

Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true"

Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once.

3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives.

If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages MUCH faster now!

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » 03 Feb 2005, 08:35

be carefull with that way to make firefox faster :

After seeing at least a couple dozen blog posts all referencing these changes to "speed up Firefox", I thought it would be worth a little explanation.

Yes, enabling HTTP pipelining can dramatically improve networking performance. The downside, and the reason it's not enabled by default, is that it can prevent Web pages from displaying correctly. If you've enabled this, and you find pages that aren't displaying correctly, please don't blame Firefox or the Web developer. It's probably the fact that you enabled an "unsupported" feature which is incompatible with some Web servers and proxy servers.

The second change, setting the initial paint delay at zero, may get you some content on the screen faster, but it's worth noting that it will dramatically slow down the time it takes the entire page to display. Here's what's going on. Gecko, Firefox's rendering engine, is trying to optimize between the cost of waiting for a bit more data versus doing more painting and reflows as new data comes in. Waiting a bit longer before it starts painting the page gives Gecko a chance to receive more content before chewing up CPU cycles to render and reflow the document. If you drop this value down to zero or near zero, that means you'll see the page start displaying a bit earlier, but not having received much data in that short interval, you'll have a lot more paint and reflow cycles to complete rendering of the page.

This one probably comes down to a combination of bandwidth, CPU speed, and personal preference. If it works for you, and you don't mind the side-effects, then great. Just note that what works for one person/system, may not work for another.

Yes, there are tuning change you can make (even at compile time, see Moox' optimized builds) that will dramatically alter the performance characteristics of Firefox. Feel free to experiment, but remember that most of the defaults are defaults for a reason. If your browser starts misbehaving or web sites look broken, it might be worth going back to default settings.

I disagree with you guys about firefox, I think it's slower then IE and it has some compatibility problems with websites, I stick with IE or Opera browser...
Probably my own incompetence but all the sites I create don't seem to like firefox and their layout gets messed up. Somebody has any tips for that?

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 03 Feb 2005, 09:45

Probably my own incompetence but all the sites I create don't seem to like firefox and their layout gets messed up. Somebody has any tips for that?

Note that firefox hasn't any problems at all opening websites, it's the person who created the site that did something wrong (not using proper html).

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 03 Feb 2005, 09:48

IE is okay. The bandwith in most places, is what poses a problem.

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » 03 Feb 2005, 10:15

blackhawk wrote:
Probably my own incompetence but all the sites I create don't seem to like firefox and their layout gets messed up. Somebody has any tips for that?
Note that firefox hasn't any problems at all opening websites, it's the person who created the site that did something wrong (not using proper html).

Like I said, it's probably my own incompetence... Just don't have the time to research how to make it compatible with firefox. And I'm not gonna invest time in a browser that only a minority of the people use...

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 03 Feb 2005, 11:55

Firefox 1.0 drives me bloody mad sometimes

Most times it will load a site OK, then others it will post a pop up type thing saying that the site could not be found, and I have to keep trying to reload until eventually the site will appear. That is the big downside compared to IE because otherwise Firefox is better.

Post by **sn26567** » 03 Feb 2005, 14:23

Don't forget that almost 99.99% of the websites are optimised for IE 6.0. No surprise that Firefox sometimes cannot cope. I use myself Netscape 7.2 at home (Netscape used to be based on Mozilla - not anymore now that they rely on Gecko), but sometimes I have to return to IE 6.0 and all its disadvantages ith respect to security in order to be able to see some sites.

Post by **luchtzak** » 03 Feb 2005, 15:00

Indeed on some websites things only work with IE but is that the fault of the webdesigner or the browser?

I should think that the webdesigner creates his pages so it can be viewed by all browsers!

Note that www.luchtzak.be is optimized for all browsers

Comet · Post by **Comet** » 03 Feb 2005, 19:22

There used to be an issue with the earlier Firefox browser and Amazon's secure ordering page. When I tried to order something, I got an error message saying that Amazons secure site was not compatible with Firefox, so I had to switch to IE6 to put in my order. That issue has been resolved in Firefox 1.0 though.

Stoney · Post by **Stoney** » 04 Feb 2005, 08:33

luchtzak wrote:Indeed on some websites things only work with IE but is that the fault of the webdesigner or the browser?

I should think that the webdesigner creates his pages so it can be viewed by all browsers!

Note that www.luchtzak.be is optimized for all browsers

No offence but that's not too difficult, you just downloaded and installed the php nuke package and adapted it to your needs. So offcourse it's gonna be compatible...
Anyway, seeing how many people use that firefox thing I think it's better to invest some time and make my sites compatible, you guys convinced me

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 05 Feb 2005, 03:32

I still say Firefox is the best thing sliced bread, it does have some limitations , such as: some sites are not compatable; when I strike those I go back to I E & work those sites from there. :mexwave: :jump2: