Emergency @ BRU 09/08/04

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Emergency @ BRU 09/08/04

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Hello guys...

While I had my lunchbreak today at 13h00, I decided to go and watch some take offs and landings @ BRU (10 minutes drive from my work) from the "zandberg" location near the football field.

I took the Leuvensesteenweg from Zaventem to Nossegem and at a sudden I had to hit the brakes. A fire truck was coming out of the firestation with lots of lights and sounds. Still a bit impressed I carried on.

While I arrived ontop of the zandberg I noticed some firetrucks holding short at both sides of exit C4. Ah, this could be an interesting lunchbreak 8) . I kept my eyes focussed in the direction of Brussels, since the runways in use were 07R/20. I saw an Avro vacating at E3, and then for 10 minutes, nothing...
Suddenly the firetrucks were slowly moving closer to the runway and I noticed an Avro on final 25L! Note that the runway configuration was 20/07R!!!
The SNBA Avro RJ100 made, what seemed to me, a normal landing, vacated via C4. I counted 7 (yes seven!!) firetrucks and several other "little vehicules" from BIAC etc which followed the Avro from real close. The Avro didn't hold short at the exit but vacated via C4 and taxied via E1 OUT11 straight to a stand @ Apron 4.

Unfortunatelly, I had no time left over because I had to be back at my desk at 14h00. And offcourse... no camera :roll:

I was very worried and eager to know more about this emergency... Then around 15h30 I had a pilot of SNBA on MSN telling me about the emergency. All aircraft received instruction to do some holdings during 30 minutes for this guy. When he told me the cause of the emergency, I couldn't believe my eyes and started to shatter out loud at my desk.. :laugh:

A cat was in the cockpit!!! The cat must have been stuck behind the peddals or very close to electronic wiring (not confirmed) and so it was a very risky situation. If the cat would have panicked, it could have had some serious risks for damaging the wiring, not to mention the pilots :P

That's what they call... geen katje om zonder handschoenen aan te pakken!

Just wanted to share with you this very amuzing lunchbreak.

FYI, it was OO-DWA and flightnumber S-Tail 3618

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Post by Vesalius »

Now, I want to raise the question... what about the closed cockpit policy??

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Post by blackhawk »

loooool :D Finally something (interesting) happened at BRU :) I hope the cat is ok? Maybe it can become the new mascot of SN (like that dog for Sabena)

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:D Wasn't SNBA going to give names to their A333's? How would "Kittykitty" sound to Birdy (rofl, lots of animals)

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Post by cka411 »

aw poor cat!! Any news how it got in there?

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This is the story,I heared today, in 10 steps:

1. one pet in cabin (cat) with his boss board A/C
2. pax (cat's boss) falls asleep
3.cat breaks out of his cage (bag)
4. another pax sitting on the same row (and who cannot stand cats) gives the animal a hard kick
5. the cat, outrageous by the time, goes to the front of the a/c.
6. cat enters flightdeck, door was open as cabincrew was serving meals to flightdeck crew
7. cat scratches the captain
8. cat got stuck behind the pedals
9. pilot hit cat with his feet, but cat falls into lower compartment with all the wiring etc....
10.emergency landing in BRU

TWA

(I don't know is this story is completely true, but it is a very expensive one for sure)

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Re: Emergency @ BRU 09/08/04

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Vesalius wrote:Hello guys...

While I had my lunchbreak today at 13h00, I decided to go and watch some take offs and landings @ BRU (10 minutes drive from my work) from the "zandberg" location near the football field.

I took the Leuvensesteenweg from Zaventem to Nossegem and at a sudden I had to hit the brakes. A fire truck was coming out of the firestation with lots of lights and sounds. Still a bit impressed I carried on.

While I arrived ontop of the zandberg I noticed some firetrucks holding short at both sides of exit C4. Ah, this could be an interesting lunchbreak 8) . I kept my eyes focussed in the direction of Brussels, since the runways in use were 07R/20. I saw an Avro vacating at E3, and then for 10 minutes, nothing...
Suddenly the firetrucks were slowly moving closer to the runway and I noticed an Avro on final 25L! Note that the runway configuration was 20/07R!!!
The SNBA Avro RJ100 made, what seemed to me, a normal landing, vacated via C4. I counted 7 (yes seven!!) firetrucks and several other "little vehicules" from BIAC etc which followed the Avro from real close. The Avro didn't hold short at the exit but vacated via C4 and taxied via E1 OUT11 straight to a stand @ Apron 4.

Unfortunatelly, I had no time left over because I had to be back at my desk at 14h00. And offcourse... no camera :roll:

I was very worried and eager to know more about this emergency... Then around 15h30 I had a pilot of SNBA on MSN telling me about the emergency. All aircraft received instruction to do some holdings during 30 minutes for this guy. When he told me the cause of the emergency, I couldn't believe my eyes and started to shatter out loud at my desk.. :laugh:

A cat was in the cockpit!!! The cat must have been stuck behind the peddals or very close to electronic wiring (not confirmed) and so it was a very risky situation. If the cat would have panicked, it could have had some serious risks for damaging the wiring, not to mention the pilots :P

That's what they call... geen katje om zonder handschoenen aan te pakken!

Just wanted to share with you this very amuzing lunchbreak.

FYI, it was OO-DWA and flightnumber S-Tail 3618
Sorry I've to make a correction to this, it was OO-DJZ and flightnumber was SN2905 or S-tail 77J destination was Vienna.

There was also a electrical problem with the aircraft problably due to the cat.

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Post by Vesalius »

ah thanks for correcting the registration and flightnumber!

(although I was informed about it by the pilot who landed the first after this incident)

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There were 57 passengers on board. SN can't be blamed because they have followed the international rules concerning animals in the cabin (only 1 a flight, ... ). The name of the cat is "Gin". What happened during the flight will be investigated.
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Thanks for all the info, guys.

As usual, Luchtzak gives you the latest news on all aviation matters in Belgium, Europe and the World.

Thanks to you...

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Post by sab319 »

this is funny, an emergency landing due to a cat! :) :) :): ):)
Wouldn't mind seeing those PAX faces when they told them!

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That is another reason why animals should be transported in secure carrying cages in the aircraft hold. I do not agree with shoving animals into bags anyway, it is cruel and causes distress.

Slightly :offtopic: but a few years ago in Paris, I saw a stupid cow shoving a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel into a backpack. The dog was struggling and clearly did not want to be crammed into a bag. If people have animals like dogs then they should remember what the dog's legs are for and let them walk. Just because a dog is small it doesn't mean that it is incapable of walking anywhere, I have seen people who treat Yorkshire terriers like dogs instead of handbags, and let them run in the park and on the beach, and the dogs have always been happy and contented. Those which have been "pampered" and carried everywhere and never allowed to walk about on their own tend to be more likely to snap and be bad tempered (we used to get plenty like this at the vets where I worked!)
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Comet wrote:I saw a stupid cow shoving a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel into a backpack.
A cow and a dog in the same cabin? I thought only one animal was allowed per cabin ;-)
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Back on topic: here is the CNN story (yes, folks, it even made the headlines of CNN!):
Pilot turns back after cat attack

Tuesday, August 10, 2004 Posted: 1141 GMT (1941 HKT)

BRUSSELS, Belgium (Reuters) -- A cat running loose on a Belgian commercial flight attacked a pilot and forced the crew to turn back to the airport.

The gray cat, named "Gin," broke out of its cage about 20 minutes after take-off and scurried to the cockpit where it scratched the co-pilot, SN Brussels Airlines said on Tuesday.

The flight with 62 crew and passengers had left Brussels for Vienna on Monday when the cat, a prized animal that travels to cat shows around the world, started wandering around the passenger cabin.

"The passenger was asleep and at that point the cat managed to escape the cage," an airline spokesman said.

The cat managed to slip through the cockpit door as a flight attendant served lunch to the pilots.

The scared animal was "very aggressive and scratched the co-pilot," forcing the crew to return to the airport, the spokesman said.

The passengers were put on another flight to Vienna, without the cat and its owner, who had to take a separate flight there.
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Post by Jense »

Seems that this cat is becoming famous :wink: :?

A lot of attention on VTM and VRT in their news, where the spokesman of SN BA says something on TV...

I don't want to be the boss of that cat, I think it'll cost a lot of money :?

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And BBCnews: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3551672.stm

Cat pounces on pilot mid-flight

A "lot of coincidences", as the airline told BBC News Online, ended with the animal running wild in the cockpit and attacking the co-pilot. The captain ordered the Vienna-bound plane back after about 20 minutes. SN Brussels Airlines stressed the incident had been a fluke and the crew had observed all safety regulations.

"We 100% support the decision made by the captain," said the company to the BBC. "Nobody could tell what an agitated cat might do in the circumstances, scrabbling around amid the sensitive equipment in the cockpit of the Avro RJ. It took a long time to catch it,"

Kick theory

As an investigation got under way into Monday's incident, SNBA explained that it appeared to be essentially a freak accident, caused by a series of circumstances:
* the cat's owner was apparently sleeping when it escaped from its travelling bag
* a child in a neighbouring seat may have interfered with the bag, releasing the cat
* nobody alerted the crew before the cat slipped into the cockpit as meals were being served to the crew

The airline pointed out that the cat aboard Flight SN 2905, travelling from Oslo via Brussels to Vienna, was being conveyed in accordance with international regulations. These allow for a single pet weighing no more then five kilos to be carried in a suitable piece of luggage in the cabin. He stressed, too, that the cockpit had been open for no more than "five to 10" seconds, in respect of safety guidelines brought in after the 11 September 2001 hijackings over America. The pet's owner had some questions to answer back on the ground as the other 57 passengers were put on another flight but no action was taken against the cat itself.
One possible reason for the creature's sudden fit of fury may have been an unconfirmed report that it was "kicked by somebody in business class" on its way through the cabin.

Also: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... n/1691935/
http://www.vtm.be/asx/vtmnieuws/vtmnieuws13uur_Di.asx
http://www.vrtnieuws.net

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Post by Vesalius »

What an amuzing story... Very funny, typical belgian! :frantic: Thanks for all the additional info guys!

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sn26567 wrote:
Comet wrote:I saw a stupid cow shoving a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel into a backpack.
A cow and a dog in the same cabin? I thought only one animal was allowed per cabin ;-)
:lol: That was something I saw on one of the main shopping streets of Paris.
Rough treating animals really makes me mad :evil: . The French have a strange attitude to animals anyway. We used to look in pet shops over there and see bloody perfume for dogs! And whilst i accept that something like a poodle needs to be clipped to keep its coat in good condition, I cannot accept that the same poodle has to be dyed in a stupid shade of pink to suit the owner's pathetic whims.

Back to the cat in the cabin/flight deck - I would have thought that a major concern over an animal like a cat suddenly going berserk and attacking and scratching like that one did would be rabies? You can get rabies from a scratch and cats are not as routinely vaccinated as dogs are. I really do not think animals should go in an aircraft cabin under any circumstances, both from the point of view of safety and comfort for the animal, and the point of view of the passengers who could be at risk if the animal escapes.
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Post by ATC »

PEOPLE ... PEOPLE... :!:

I think this must be the best SNBA "stunt" since their birth. :wink:

OK, besides that fact that it was a dangerous situation (?) ... the SN Brussels Airlines promotion on this moment is "never seen before".

The whole (aviation) world is talken about this situation. (BBC,CCN, aviation-forums,...)

OK, you could say it's a rather "embarassing situation" for SNBA, but many people didn't know SNBA before this incedent.
I think this incedent will bring SNBA in the (aviation) picture...
:D You could even say/think that SNBA is the most carefull airliner in the world... I don't think many airlines will do a big emergency for such a CAT-case. SNBA puts the safety of their passengers on the first place and not their commercial interests ...

Well done SNBA... :wink:

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Post by Duche »

Pilots belong in the cockpit.
Passengers and cabin crew belong in the cabin.
Animals belong in the animal bay or heated cargo deck.

It's that simple :roll:

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