Tailstrike

moons · Post by **moons** » 29 Jul 2004, 17:57

I found this picture of a 777 which is making a tailstrike

http://www.planepictures.net/show.cgi?238571

I don't get it that a pilot can mess it up like that?! Or isn't his fault?
What's the cause of a tailstrike? Is it a human error of the pilot or a problem with the "weight and balance" of the plane?

greetz

pilatus · Post by **pilatus** » 29 Jul 2004, 23:16

Well as far as I know it is a pilot mistake, but hey don't blame him, everyone can make mistakes but some off them are expensive

Captain · Post by **Captain** » 29 Jul 2004, 23:35

What happened in this case? Did the plane continue to take off and fly to it's destination (I'm quite sure the plane is takeing off)?

or did they have to turn back and land again to inspect damage?

Captain

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 29 Jul 2004, 23:43

Captain wrote:What happened in this case? Did the plane continue to take off and fly to it's destination (I'm quite sure the plane is takeing off)?

or did they have to turn back and land again to inspect damage?

Captain

Captain, just read the comment with the photo, it's all there...

nwa757 · Post by **nwa757** » 30 Jul 2004, 00:03

Doesn't the 777 have a tail wheel? If it does, than it doesn't matter if the pilot makes a tailstrike.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 30 Jul 2004, 01:16

nwa757 wrote:Doesn't the 777 have a tail wheel? If it does, than it doesn't matter if the pilot makes a tailstrike.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/628450/L/

No sign of a tail wheel here...

Even if there would be a tailwheel, such a heavy strike would cause damage no mather what I would assume...

Captain · Post by **Captain** » 30 Jul 2004, 02:21

Sorry Buzz, didn't see the description above the photo (would have expected it to be below the photo).

Must have been scary for passengers

Captain

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 30 Jul 2004, 22:44

I sent in a query to www.allexperts.com about this sort of thing happening & the expert assured me it could not happen because of the advanced fly-by wire controls, he assured me the flight management computers would over-ride excessive presure on the side-stick; I guess he was wrong

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moons · Post by **moons** » 31 Jul 2004, 10:32

Thanx for the answers people

greetz

Snoopy · Post by **Snoopy** » 31 Jul 2004, 12:20

Hmmmm ..... Looks like a fake picture to me ...

1V1 · Post by **1V1** » 31 Jul 2004, 18:22

1.A side-stick is called like that because it's located on the lateral consoles
2.Most aircraft are certified for max tailwind 10kts. (nothing to do with Bert).
3.Windshear is predictable by the computer (predictive windshear)
4.A tailstrike occurs when you have more than max pitch.
-too high round out
-windshear
-bounced landing
-too fast rotation on take off
-windshear procedure on take off
-etc....
5.On the Airbus the computer calculates the approach speeds, a groundspeed mini is calculated. This speed takes headwind and tailwind into account (GS mini is variable during the approach) and gives you a safety margin in case of a windshear.
6.Remember it's always pilot error.
Insurer: It was pilot error.
Pilot: It was design error.
Insurer: I disagree. The pilot is at fault for trusting the designer.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 04 Aug 2004, 21:25

That's an impressive picture 8O

Thanks for all those very interesting explanations guys.

Chris